How to Market Your Products | Sea to Sale

Recorded July 16, 2024

This Sea to Sale webinar features industry experts sharing strategies for effective seaweed product marketing across food and materials sectors. Key insights include terminology choices, emphasizing taste alongside sustainability benefits, making impact claims tangible, and creating distinctive brand identities that connect with consumers.

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction to Kelp Marketing 

Understanding customer priorities and the importance of consistent messaging across the seaweed industry

 

09:38 – Effective Narratives for Sustainable Aquatic Foods 

Research on consumer preferences and messaging strategies from Food for Climate League

 

27:19 – BettaF!sh: Building a Seaweed-Based Brand 

Lessons from developing a consumer-facing brand for plant-based seafood alternatives

 

44:21 – Sway: Marketing Regenerative Materials 

Strategies for positioning seaweed as the foundation for sustainable packaging solutions

 

57:13 – Q&A Session 

Expert answers on terminology, sensory testing, and market development

Transcript

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Hi everyone.

 

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Um, welcome in.

 

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So for this month’s seed of sale, um, I’m so excited to chat

 

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with three industry experts, um,

 

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about all things kelp marketing.

 

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If you haven’t joined us before, my name’s Grace Collary

 

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and I’m the senior market development program

 

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manager here at GreenWave.

 

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Uh, it’s so great to be here with you today.

 

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And, um, we’re getting started with introductions,

 

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so I’d love to just learn a little bit

 

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more about who’s here.

 

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If you haven’t had a chance to say hello, um, feel free

 

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to post your name, uh, your current role

 

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or intended role in the industry as well as

 

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where you’re joining us from in the chat.

 

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Um, it’s great to get a sense of who’s here

 

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and potentially make connections

 

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with folks after the webinar.

 

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Um, so while you’re doing intros, I’m gonna go

 

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through some webinar logistics just quickly.

 

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So as per usual, we’re recording this session.

 

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Um, so we have the opportunity to share it out

 

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with you all after the fact.

 

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And, um, you can, you can watch the content later on.

 

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And, um, after introductions are finished up,

 

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we’re gonna close the chat function on Zoom

 

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and we encourage you to use the q

 

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and a function throughout the presentation, um,

 

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to start asking questions to our speakers.

 

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We’ll actually save all those questions till the very end,

 

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um, but you’re welcome to start posting throughout

 

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while they’re top of mind.

 

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Um, and today I’m really excited

 

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for our super stellar lineup of speakers.

 

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Uh, so for first, um,

 

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we’ll have Cadet Remar from Food for Climate League

 

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and, um, she’ll be discussing effective narratives

 

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to increase interest

 

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and consumption of sustainable aquatic foods.

 

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Um, then we will move on to chat with Be Fish

 

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and, um, Trin will share their journey as a brand

 

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to make consumers, um, fall in love, not just

 

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with their plant-based tuna,

 

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but also, um, the story of seaweed.

 

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And, um, finally, Alyssa Pace will discuss seaweed, um,

 

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as sort of the icing on the cake for sways, um,

 

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B2B marketing strategy.

 

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Uh, and as I mentioned, we’ll have about 10

 

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to 15 minutes at the end for q and a.

 

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So please ask these incredible speakers.

 

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Lots and lots of questions.

 

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Um, and just, just

 

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to give you some background on why we’re hosting this

 

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webinar, uh, if you’re joining us today, you’re probably,

 

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um, aware of the fact that telling the story of seaweed, um,

 

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is isn’t easy.

 

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I actually learned this firsthand, um, while stopping

 

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by Kelp Brands demo at a local grocery store.

 

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And I was super excited to chat with all the customers, um,

 

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about all things kelp farming

 

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and the multitude of sustainability

 

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and health benefits of seaweed.

 

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Uh, but I quickly realized that folks were, you know,

 

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excited about all of that.

 

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But at the end of the day, they were there to, um,

 

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buy groceries, buy food that tasted good

 

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and put meals on the table.

 

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Um, and I think, uh, in the kelp industry, it’s really easy

 

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to forget that our target customers don’t live

 

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and breathe seaweed like we do.

 

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Uh, so you’ll really wanna understand, um, their priorities

 

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and motivations, um, for making a purchase.

 

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So, uh, today we’ll have the opportunity to dive into what

 

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that looks like through effective kelp marketing

 

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and specifically talk about how

 

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to succinctly tell your story, um,

 

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and quickly capture the attention of your audience.

 

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Um, and I think you know, why we’re hosting this webinar is

 

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to definitely help you with your marketing strategy,

 

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but also to support the larger seaweed industry, um,

 

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to start to think about consistent messaging.

 

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So it probably will come as no surprise to you

 

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that sales typically require many, many touch points, um,

 

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and especially for a product like seaweed

 

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or kelp that might not be familiar to consumers.

 

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So the more our sector is able to align on messaging, um,

 

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the more our story will be amplified, um, making it easier

 

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for you all as a brand.

 

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And of course you’ll need a unique value proposition.

 

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Um, but as an emerging sector, we just have so much to gain

 

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through consistent messaging, um,

 

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and the opportunity to bolster awareness

 

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of the amazing story of seaweed.

 

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And aside from this conversation today, there are

 

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so many awesome resources already available.

 

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Um, you can check out things like GreenWave has some hub

 

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marketing content, um,

 

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sea Grants National Seaweed Hub has a seaweed toolkit

 

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that actually has example social media posts

 

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and messaging that you can leverage.

 

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Um, and Sarah will be posting those links in the chat.

 

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And then, um, there’s also the Food

 

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for Climate Leagues Aquatic toolkits,

 

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which are actually coming up next.

 

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Um, so with that I, I’d love to welcome our first speaker.

 

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Um, cadet is a research associate at the

 

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Food for Climate League.

 

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Um, in her past lives, she has served

 

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as an instructional designer,

 

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project manager in behavioral health researcher across

 

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higher education, nonprofit and tech industries.

 

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Originally from Washington DC Cadet is passionate about

 

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public service and has enjoyed working on a variety

 

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of projects spanning public health

 

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and climate education at the United Nations talk base

 

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and Teacher’s college, uh, she earned her MA in psychology

 

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and her BA in Political Science in East Asian Languages

 

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and Cultures from Columbia University.

 

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Over to you Cadet.

 

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Alright, so hi everyone, my name is Cadet.

 

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I am part of the team at Food for Climate League

 

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and I’m so excited to be here today

 

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and to introduce you to FCL as well

 

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as our research on sustainable seed vegetables like slide.

 

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So let me tell you a little bit more about who we are are,

 

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we are a interdisciplinary team of designers, researchers,

 

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strategists, you name it.

 

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And we’re all really passionate about building a more

 

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sustainable food system for all.

 

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Our specialty is in communications,

 

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specifically using narrative design, which is storytelling

 

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and behavioral science, which is understanding

 

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what really drives human behavior.

 

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And if you aren’t familiar with either of these things,

 

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I’m here to remind you that you use these tools every day in

 

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your job, every time you market your product

 

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or you tell the story of your brand.

 

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Um, and some of the strategies

 

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that we use at FCL include leveraging food trends in market

 

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reports, collaborating with folks such

 

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as yourself in industry and using data

 

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and analytics to really measure and scale our impact slide.

 

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Today we’ll talk a little bit about sea vegetables

 

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and uh, really focusing on how to boost their appeal

 

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and then we’ll wrap up with some really useful

 

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resources slide.

 

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So why see vegetables slide

 

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and what do you mean by sustainable aquatic foods?

 

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Those are all really good questions.

 

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And so just for context, our research at FCL has looked at

 

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both c vegetables and BI bulbs,

 

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but for the purposes of this presentation,

 

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we’re focusing only on sea vegetables,

 

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specifically kelp right at FCL.

 

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We recognize, um, that agriculture

 

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and food systems must adapt to meet some of the challenges

 

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that we’re facing because of climate change.

 

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And this means shifting towards more sustainable aquatic

 

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foods like, but sustainability

 

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isn’t the only challenge that we face in our food system

 

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menus and food options and restaurants

 

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and grocery stores that we encounter often lack in

 

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biodiversity, in nutritional value,

 

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and they don’t always tap into existing eater trends,

 

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which is really a missed opportunity slide.

 

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And this is something that we can actually

 

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leverage as an opportunity.

 

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This is something that seed vegetables can address.

 

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Uh, kelp, as you all know, is a gem of the sea.

 

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It’s tasty and versatile. It’s umami packed.

 

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You can have it as a snack or an entree.

 

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It’s healthy and nutritious.

 

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Uh, we often call it a wellbeing booster.

 

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And as an aside, this claim of wellbeing

 

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and holistic health is really popular

 

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with consumers right now.

 

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So kelp is really, um, on brand.

 

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Um, and we also know that kelp is very sustainable.

 

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It is regenerative

 

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and it has this power to really heal our ocean.

 

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And you see this messaging on a lot

 

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of popular brands like Ocean’s, halo and Gu Me Seaweed.

 

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And uh, more importantly, kelp adds biodiversity

 

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to our diets and our lifestyles.

 

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It adds a little bit of sparkle, so to speak.

 

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And in terms of flavor,

 

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kelp also fit seamlessly within today’s top eater trends,

 

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whether it’s plant-based or global and international flavors

 

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or climate smart eating slide.

 

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But the problem is sustainable.

 

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Aquatic foods like kelp are still quite niche.

 

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Consumers aren’t really familiar with these ingredients

 

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or even how to prepare them,

 

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but we know that kelp is gaining traction among eaters

 

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and on our end, the more work that we do

 

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to increase their awareness

 

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and familiarity, not only of these ingredients

 

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but our brands as well, the better that we’ll be able

 

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to engage with these consumers.

 

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Down the line slide.

 

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So how did we at FCL boost the appeal

 

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of sea vegetables like Health slide?

 

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Our insights stem from a multi-year research effort in food

 

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service, incorporating a couple of CPG products.

 

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In 2022, we conducted dozens

 

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of expert interviews in industry, reviewed over a hundred

 

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research papers and friend reports

 

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and got feedback from over a thousand eaters, uh,

 

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to identify the most, um, effective narratives

 

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to promote sustainable quality food.

 

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In 2023, we conducted not one, not two,

 

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but three case studies in food service

 

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to put these narratives to the test

 

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and see how they actually drive consumption in real life.

 

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Now we’re in 2024

 

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and we hope to reach over a thousand chefs in food

 

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service in our industry.

 

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These are the change makers, the people

 

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who are actually moving the product.

 

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Um, and we hope to reach them

 

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through our Cook Aquatic Foods program

 

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to really encourage them, um,

 

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to add more sustainable aquatic foods on their menus

 

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and reach eaters nationwide.

 

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Slide. So

 

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what were our findings from our two years of research?

 

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The first, in terms of how to talk about sea vegetables,

 

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we identified four key themes.

 

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The first being health and nutrition.

 

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So really talking about and using claims like nourishing

 

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and nutrient rich were really effective, uh,

 

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with eaters talking about sustainability in climate,

 

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as you all know, really focusing on this planet friendly

 

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aspect also resonated with eaters.

 

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Uh, leveraging the taste of seed vegetables like kelp as

 

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savory and refreshing

 

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and flavor packed was also really effective.

 

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And lastly, talking about the versatility in the diversity

 

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of ke uh, across different dishes and cuisines

 

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and formats was also really effective slide

 

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in terms of labeling sea vegetables in the best

 

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communication practices across CPG and Conserv.

 

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We found that it’s actually best to compare kelp

 

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to land-based vegetables,

 

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really putting like a foot in the familiar, so you can think

 

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of kelp as like the new kale or spinach

 

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and really lead with what is accessible to eaters as opposed

 

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to starting with something new and foreign.

 

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We also found that visually presenting kelp as a convenient

 

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everyday food was the best way to go.

 

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So thinking of kelp, not as just an ingredient on a plate,

 

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but as the base for AAMI rich crunchy salad

 

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or as the base of a umami veggie burger, um,

 

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was really the best approach here.

 

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And tapping into these familiar, again, familiar

 

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and convenient and tasty formats.

 

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Our research also found

 

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that eaters preferred the D term seed vegetable seaweed.

 

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And this was due to negative associations

 

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with eating a weed.

 

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And we’ve actually found this in some

 

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of our other research on different projects.

 

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Uh, we found that people, when we ask them what they think

 

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of kelp, uh, the first thing that comes to mind is,

 

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you know, something that floats in the ocean, something

 

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that get gets stuck to their leg at the beach, um,

 

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as opposed to something that is delicious

 

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and that they’d want to eat in a dish.

 

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We found that in CPG, um,

 

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really tapping into our audience’s trusted voices

 

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was also effective.

 

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So by trusted voice we mean influencers, friends

 

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and family, medical professionals like dieticians,

 

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whoever eaters turned to for recommendations on what

 

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and how to eat was also, uh, really resonant.

 

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And, uh, in terms of descriptors, really tuning into

 

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what was, uh, appealing favorably to people’s senses

 

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was also very, uh, effective.

 

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So for example, talking about kelp as umami rich

 

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and crunchy as opposed to briny, um, was, was one approach.

 

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And lastly, uh, we found

 

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that highlighting the safety in talking about the origin

 

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of kelp to connect eaters with this broader story about

 

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where their food comes from was really powerful.

 

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Not only to reassure eaters of, you know, the food quality

 

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of this ingredient, but also to engage them into this more,

 

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um, di direct narrative of farm to table.

 

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And you actually see this effective storytelling with a lot

 

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of brands like Forge and Bound or Atlantic Sea Farms.

 

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And the latter, and I don’t know if you know this,

 

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but the latter actually has this QR code on the back

 

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of their products where consumers can actually scan

 

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and, you know, learn about the farmer in Maine

 

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who grew their burger, which I think is just so, uh,

 

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infinitely cool, um, in a good way of tapping into a lot

 

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of consumers who are always using their phones

 

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for everything, I think is a really great way

 

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that engaging them.

 

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Uh, slide. And these were some

 

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of the dishes that we, uh, tested using CPG products.

 

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So the billow names on the left

 

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and then the Hardy Fusion burger on the right in particular,

 

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uh, were made, um, using products from Akua

 

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and that really appealed to eaters.

 

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So something that I wanna note is the flavors

 

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and the textures

 

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and the sensory aspect in the name and the description.

 

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That is really what sells.

 

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That is really what appeals to consumers slide.

 

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And to wrap it all up, uh, slide, uh,

 

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aquatic foods like health are this really amazing

 

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opportunity to address, uh, some of the challenges

 

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that we’re facing because of climate change.

 

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And despite these perceptions around what consumers like

 

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and what they don’t like, there is growing interest in

 

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sea vegetables like kelp.

 

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And I think that brands can actually capitalize on this

 

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through narrative design and strategic communications.

 

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How you communicate is critical

 

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and in our research we found that health sustainability,

 

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versatility, um, and taste narratives

 

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or in lieu of taste really appealing to that sensory aspect

 

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for sea vegetables was most effective

 

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for generating excitement slide.

 

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So if you liked what you heard today

 

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and you want to learn more,

 

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then I have some really good news for you.

 

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We have several resources

 

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for you available online and they’re free.

 

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Just use my code Cadet 20 at checkout. I’m kidding.

 

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These are all free resources, no code is needed

 

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and you can find them online on our website Eat aquatic

 

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foods.org slide.

 

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And I know that was an ocean of information, so thank you

 

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for taking this plunge with me.

 

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And if you’d like to learn more about FCL

 

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and what we do, you can swim on over to our website at food

 

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for climate league.org.

 

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Thank you so much and feel free

 

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to drop your question into the chat.

 

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Amazing. Thank you cadet.

 

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Um, and Sarah should be posting those links in the chat

 

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so you can, um, check out their website and resources.

 

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Um, I think it was super interesting your point about, um,

 

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calling kelp sea vegetables.

 

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I think, you know, thinking about

 

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what words we use in our marketing since we have, um,

 

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such a short amount of time

 

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to capture people’s attention is really important.

 

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So, um, being intentional

 

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and doing research around that is very insightful.

 

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Um, next up I am really excited to welcome um, tau Trend.

 

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Um, starting at Beta Fish as a working student.

 

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Tao was right there from the beginning.

 

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She helped build the brand as well

 

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as the marketing department

 

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and supported in launching the brand in product in Germany

 

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and later all across Europe, um, from social media

 

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to event sponsorships, press relations

 

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and partner marketing.

 

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She’s done it all having followed

 

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and supported the whole journey up until now.

 

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She knows the changes in the food industry

 

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and consumer trends.

 

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Um, so over to you Tao.

 

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Thank you very much. Um, hi there.

 

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I’m Tao and the marketing manager of Better Fish.

 

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Um, we’re creating the most authentic fish alternatives made

 

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from seaweed and just like you all,

 

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we’re totally fascinated by it.

 

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Um, we actually invest a lot in seaweed RD

 

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and research projects to create novel ingredients

 

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for the food in industry.

 

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I already saw some people, um, working in this field.

 

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Um, but today let’s just focus on our end consumer products.

 

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I’m going to be talking about how we build up our B2C brand

 

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and how it evolves since we launched in October, 2020,

 

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2021 slide.

 

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Um, as you all know, sea, we has a lot

 

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of positive impact on our oceans and environment.

 

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We also see the opportunity of sea, we cultivation

 

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to reduce the pressure of fishing, uh,

 

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in the fishing industry

 

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and often an alternative income source

 

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for coastal community.

 

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So that’s why we want

 

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to max seaweed an integral part in every category

 

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of the food industry, right?

 

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Um, the challenge at the moment, as we all know,

 

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there’s no demand

 

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and seaweed farms like our partners in Norway

 

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and Ireland are struggling to get rid

 

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of the harvested seaweed slide,

 

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which means our mission at Better Fish is to increase demand

 

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by taking seaweed mainstream.

 

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We’re sourcing the seaweed from our European seaweed partner

 

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funds develop unique processing methods

 

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to make the seaweed not only applicable

 

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to in our own alternative products,

 

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but eventually also for the food industry.

 

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You can already see our fish alternatives are actually only

 

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the trillion horse to make people eat seaweed.

 

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And by that, uh, we try to increase the demand

 

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for the young seaweed industry

 

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and also increase impact slide.

 

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And that’s cool and all,

 

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but let’s go to why we’re actually here.

 

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So how do we market and sell our fish alternatives?

 

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We claim to make the most authentic

 

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fish alternatives out there.

 

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And our key ingredient,

 

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the seaweed brings the authentic ocean flavor.

 

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Of course, we are not only aiming at the vegan niche,

 

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but especially at the mainstream flexitarians

 

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and the younger generations who are obviously very aware

 

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of our sustainability challenges.

 

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And when you look at our product portfolio, which we

 

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of course optimize

 

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and reduce over the years, you can see that we try

 

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to have a packaging format for every occasion,

 

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but also having a tuna can as our current flagship product.

 

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Um, it’s easy to understand

 

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and people are very familiar with this product, uh,

 

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with this format and that’s what you need

 

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and that’s what my talk will be about.

 

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Familiar familiarity, uh,

 

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which ADEs also talked about already slide

 

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What was, um, and yeah, it all started with tuna actually.

 

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Um, what was important to us when it comes to branding

 

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or what that we don’t look like a typical vegan brand,

 

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like all green and brown and organic.

 

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Um, we knew that we needed to create a lifestyle brand

 

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that’s young and fun.

 

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And so that’s how it started with tuna.

 

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When we talked, when talking about how

 

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to sell seaweed based food product, there’s no way

 

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around talking about how to sell food product.

 

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And when you’re selling food, taste

 

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and pricing are the two most important

 

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arguments for the end consumer.

 

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It doesn’t matter how sustainable you are,

 

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if it’s not tasty, if it’s not at price parity

 

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with the animal product, people just don’t care.

 

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So at the beginning we tried

 

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to sell tuna just like we would sell real tuna

 

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or any other kind of food that’s new in the supermarket.

 

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There was not much of impact communication, no,

 

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no seaweed communication at all

 

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because back then when we started people

 

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didn’t like seaweed.

 

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We did a lot of social media,

 

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tried leveraging our existing community in Berlin

 

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and quickly got into contact

 

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with opinion leaders to spread the message.

 

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So I think press relations and social media relations

 

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and networking were our key channeled.

 

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And after we, after that,

 

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we quickly realized we should sponsor events

 

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to sample our product and get people to try.

 

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And this is what worked really well for us until now slide

 

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and now there’s seaweed.

 

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So as you see consumers change

 

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and the market also changes,

 

465

00:22:22.875 –> 00:22:26.775

we actually see a new seaweed hype popping up, um,

 

466

00:22:27.155 –> 00:22:30.455

and consumers actually understand the benefits of seaweed

 

467

00:22:30.475 –> 00:22:32.295

for our health and for the flavor profile.

 

468

00:22:32.715 –> 00:22:34.855

That’s why we quickly jumped on this hype strain

 

469

00:22:35.275 –> 00:22:38.695

and started using the seaweed messaging even more in our

 

470

00:22:38.935 –> 00:22:42.895

communications for B2C, we use all the popular channels,

 

471

00:22:42.895 –> 00:22:44.575

of course, like Instagram, TikTok,

 

472

00:22:44.915 –> 00:22:46.855

but we still do a lot of press relations

 

473

00:22:46.915 –> 00:22:48.015

and sponsoring events.

 

474

00:22:48.515 –> 00:22:51.455

We try to have really good relationships with the media

 

475

00:22:51.595 –> 00:22:52.855

and also with influencers

 

476

00:22:52.855 –> 00:22:55.215

because at the end, um, if they like you,

 

477

00:22:55.365 –> 00:22:56.575

they will promote your product.

 

478

00:22:57.315 –> 00:22:59.415

Um, so you can see we,

 

479

00:22:59.545 –> 00:23:02.615

where we communicate didn’t change a lot, it’s just rather

 

480

00:23:02.765 –> 00:23:03.855

what we communicated.

 

481

00:23:04.435 –> 00:23:08.615

So sustainability became a very big important topic for us.

 

482

00:23:09.195 –> 00:23:11.375

So CBE becomes our USP

 

483

00:23:11.555 –> 00:23:13.095

and also made it possible

 

484

00:23:13.115 –> 00:23:15.975

to really differentiate ourself from the

 

485

00:23:16.525 –> 00:23:17.695

growing competition.

 

486

00:23:18.435 –> 00:23:21.055

Um, we actually needed to talk about seaweed now

 

487

00:23:21.055 –> 00:23:23.175

to stay relevant slide.

 

488

00:23:24.825 –> 00:23:27.365

Um, so yeah, then there’s the questions.

 

489

00:23:27.985 –> 00:23:31.365

How can we make people fall in love with seaweed?

 

490

00:23:32.065 –> 00:23:36.785

Um, slide, uh, we’re still learning

 

491

00:23:36.925 –> 00:23:38.105

and we also failed a lot.

 

492

00:23:38.285 –> 00:23:40.385

Um, but these are our experiences.

 

493

00:23:40.685 –> 00:23:43.505

So the firstly learning was of course taste

 

494

00:23:43.525 –> 00:23:45.065

and price are still number one

 

495

00:23:45.235 –> 00:23:46.965

because yes, we are still food.

 

496

00:23:47.385 –> 00:23:48.965

That’s why we’re still stick sticking

 

497

00:23:49.025 –> 00:23:50.485

to these two messaging pillars

 

498

00:23:50.485 –> 00:23:53.925

because it’s just the basic need customers want from food.

 

499

00:23:54.355 –> 00:23:56.045

It’s also helping us selling the product

 

500

00:23:56.275 –> 00:23:59.645

because for one price parity with original product

 

501

00:24:00.375 –> 00:24:02.685

makes the product more accessible for everyone

 

502

00:24:03.295 –> 00:24:05.155

and we can offer better prices even

 

503

00:24:05.175 –> 00:24:09.435

to our retail food service partners, which means, um, yeah,

 

504

00:24:09.545 –> 00:24:11.955

they are just deciding for us because we have better prices.

 

505

00:24:12.615 –> 00:24:15.075

Uh, we’re honestly not 100% there yet

 

506

00:24:15.075 –> 00:24:16.195

where we want the price to be,

 

507

00:24:16.615 –> 00:24:18.035

but I think it’s already good start

 

508

00:24:18.055 –> 00:24:21.275

and quite good to net to not have increased any prices

 

509

00:24:22.025 –> 00:24:23.075

despite inflation.

 

510

00:24:23.815 –> 00:24:26.795

Um, also one retail tip I can give to you is

 

511

00:24:26.795 –> 00:24:30.515

to have the RRP, like the recommended retail price to be

 

512

00:24:30.645 –> 00:24:33.515

below three euros for our con consumer goods.

 

513

00:24:34.175 –> 00:24:35.555

And for the taste messaging,

 

514

00:24:35.765 –> 00:24:38.235

we’ve actually tried it out in our ad campaigns,

 

515

00:24:38.235 –> 00:24:41.915

for example, we’ve tested it against other messagings like

 

516

00:24:42.055 –> 00:24:43.435

impact and sustainability,

 

517

00:24:44.215 –> 00:24:47.875

but selling the tasted looking product perform best overall.

 

518

00:24:48.785 –> 00:24:51.155

Also, we try to sponsor as many events as possible.

 

519

00:24:51.265 –> 00:24:54.195

This is very imp or this was and is very important for us.

 

520

00:24:55.015 –> 00:24:57.995

Um, sample our product there, getting into goody bags,

 

521

00:24:57.995 –> 00:25:00.235

getting people to try us, um,

 

522

00:25:00.235 –> 00:25:03.435

because we think it’s the ultimate brand experience at the

 

523

00:25:03.435 –> 00:25:05.435

end and it really pays out.

 

524

00:25:06.545 –> 00:25:09.875

Um, slide the next learning was

 

525

00:25:09.975 –> 00:25:11.555

to make your impact tangible.

 

526

00:25:11.975 –> 00:25:13.795

So if you’re talking about your impact,

 

527

00:25:14.245 –> 00:25:16.795

we’ve made good experiences with making it tangible.

 

528

00:25:17.025 –> 00:25:20.835

Instead of saying we’ve saved that much carbon emissions,

 

529

00:25:20.975 –> 00:25:23.915

we try to translate it into car rides,

 

530

00:25:23.965 –> 00:25:25.475

plane flight, et cetera.

 

531

00:25:26.095 –> 00:25:28.995

And also big numbers are more impressive.

 

532

00:25:29.535 –> 00:25:33.035

Um, and also to personalize things, we actually calculate

 

533

00:25:33.095 –> 00:25:34.595

how much tons of byc edge

 

534

00:25:34.595 –> 00:25:37.355

or tuna fishes our business partners are

 

535

00:25:37.555 –> 00:25:38.795

saving together with us.

 

536

00:25:39.425 –> 00:25:41.475

This is also actually a very good story

 

537

00:25:41.615 –> 00:25:43.275

for their sustainability goals.

 

538

00:25:44.055 –> 00:25:48.835

Um, slide and third lesson was

 

539

00:25:48.895 –> 00:25:50.315

to let the seaweed shine.

 

540

00:25:50.695 –> 00:25:53.355

Um, something we’ve learned on the way actually

 

541

00:25:53.355 –> 00:25:56.235

and why we had to include seaweed more into a communications

 

542

00:25:56.855 –> 00:25:59.275

was when it comes to alternative product,

 

543

00:25:59.655 –> 00:26:03.035

people are starting to worry about, um, yeah,

 

544

00:26:03.035 –> 00:26:05.515

about artificial flavoring and additives.

 

545

00:26:05.935 –> 00:26:08.715

So to prove that we are not made of all the stuff

 

546

00:26:09.015 –> 00:26:12.395

and um, yeah, we are just all natural.

 

547

00:26:12.535 –> 00:26:13.915

We are letting the seaweed shine.

 

548

00:26:14.455 –> 00:26:18.435

So seaweed and seaweed farms are actually already beautiful

 

549

00:26:18.455 –> 00:26:22.235

as they are and we just give the consumers like a very good

 

550

00:26:22.235 –> 00:26:24.155

conscience when eating because it’s all

 

551

00:26:24.155 –> 00:26:25.235

natural and growth in the water.

 

552

00:26:25.695 –> 00:26:28.115

It eases their mind and also it increases

 

553

00:26:28.175 –> 00:26:29.555

of course our own brand.

 

554

00:26:29.695 –> 00:26:32.075

Um, authenticity applied

 

555

00:26:33.925 –> 00:26:36.265

and the fourth lesson was like

 

556

00:26:36.325 –> 00:26:38.945

to add some sea magic to your brand.

 

557

00:26:39.765 –> 00:26:41.145

Um, but we actually had

 

558

00:26:41.145 –> 00:26:43.605

to further develop our brand this year

 

559

00:26:43.605 –> 00:26:47.085

because back then it was really all about tuna

 

560

00:26:47.425 –> 00:26:49.845

and we feel like it was very restricting

 

561

00:26:50.105 –> 00:26:52.165

and we didn’t talk about seaweed at all

 

562

00:26:52.165 –> 00:26:55.765

because we thought consumers were um, yeah,

 

563

00:26:55.765 –> 00:26:56.805

very hesitant to try.

 

564

00:26:57.705 –> 00:26:59.765

So with our new colors and new icon

 

565

00:26:59.765 –> 00:27:04.005

and more optimized brand identity, we made space for seaweed

 

566

00:27:04.025 –> 00:27:07.085

and also more fish alternatives beside the tuna,

 

567

00:27:07.085 –> 00:27:08.085

just like our salon.

 

568

00:27:09.025 –> 00:27:12.565

Uh, we even further developed our packaging placing little,

 

569

00:27:13.025 –> 00:27:14.485

uh, seaweed icons in the front

 

570

00:27:14.545 –> 00:27:16.605

and add more waves and ocean features.

 

571

00:27:18.005 –> 00:27:19.865

Um, also something we had to add

 

572

00:27:20.025 –> 00:27:22.105

because people were getting more suspicious

 

573

00:27:22.105 –> 00:27:23.465

towards alternative products.

 

574

00:27:23.935 –> 00:27:25.105

It’s just a tiny switch.

 

575

00:27:25.245 –> 00:27:27.585

Um, but sometimes that helps consumers

 

576

00:27:27.585 –> 00:27:29.305

to make the connection between seaweed

 

577

00:27:29.305 –> 00:27:32.945

and our product, um, without being too obvious

 

578

00:27:33.125 –> 00:27:36.145

and just don’t overexplaining anything.

 

579

00:27:37.285 –> 00:27:40.985

Um, yeah, we tried incorporating seaweed without losing the

 

580

00:27:41.225 –> 00:27:42.625

original brand identity actually.

 

581

00:27:42.725 –> 00:27:46.185

So because we still wanted to stay playful and fun

 

582

00:27:46.405 –> 00:27:48.705

and also prove that seaweed can be that too.

 

583

00:27:49.325 –> 00:27:51.025

If you are too focused on seaweed,

 

584

00:27:51.205 –> 00:27:53.985

I’m afraid consumers might be overwhelmed

 

585

00:27:53.985 –> 00:27:56.545

because seaweed is still new and it’s still unfamiliar

 

586

00:27:57.685 –> 00:27:59.945

and also they might be hesitant to try.

 

587

00:27:59.945 –> 00:28:03.425

Then, um, one thing we try is so obviously familiar

 

588

00:28:03.485 –> 00:28:06.785

to consume with, so which is especially important when

 

589

00:28:06.785 –> 00:28:08.905

selling innovative and new products.

 

590

00:28:09.605 –> 00:28:11.665

Um, yeah, slides.

 

591

00:28:13.695 –> 00:28:18.035

And then lastly, um, I call it, if you talk about us,

 

592

00:28:18.105 –> 00:28:19.275

talk about seaweed two.

 

593

00:28:20.335 –> 00:28:22.955

So just means becoming a seaweed brand is

 

594

00:28:23.095 –> 00:28:25.595

of course still a process for us.

 

595

00:28:25.855 –> 00:28:28.555

Um, one goal we actually made this year was

 

596

00:28:28.615 –> 00:28:31.835

to include seaweed on every piece of article

 

597

00:28:32.095 –> 00:28:36.795

or every feature, every posting we, yeah, we get.

 

598

00:28:36.935 –> 00:28:40.275

So we updated all our press materials to focus on seaweed

 

599

00:28:40.615 –> 00:28:43.115

and we just never stopped talking about it.

 

600

00:28:43.935 –> 00:28:47.795

So this goal, of course, actually focus on our press work.

 

601

00:28:47.975 –> 00:28:49.395

Um, when you talk to journalists,

 

602

00:28:49.395 –> 00:28:51.395

when people read your press, release it

 

603

00:28:51.395 –> 00:28:52.875

and access your press material,

 

604

00:28:53.285 –> 00:28:54.915

there should be always a little bit

 

605

00:28:54.915 –> 00:28:56.755

of seaweed magic everywhere.

 

606

00:28:57.455 –> 00:29:00.515

Um, actually this has helped us to stay relevant

 

607

00:29:00.815 –> 00:29:02.195

and newsworthy too

 

608

00:29:02.195 –> 00:29:05.435

because seaweed is one of the new superfood at the moment.

 

609

00:29:06.655 –> 00:29:09.995

You can see like even a tiny feature in a magazine right

 

610

00:29:09.995 –> 00:29:13.955

here on the, uh, right side, um, still include seaweed.

 

611

00:29:14.335 –> 00:29:16.475

So these are like our vehicles.

 

612

00:29:16.535 –> 00:29:19.315

So people slowly connect seaweed with our brand.

 

613

00:29:19.855 –> 00:29:21.555

Um, but still just don’t forget,

 

614

00:29:21.585 –> 00:29:24.675

it’s just such a long process and we are still in it.

 

615

00:29:25.495 –> 00:29:28.235

Um, also I think it really depends on a channel,

 

616

00:29:28.235 –> 00:29:31.035

whether you want to really dive deep into the seaweed story

 

617

00:29:31.135 –> 00:29:34.675

or not, or make it more digestible for the end consumer.

 

618

00:29:35.415 –> 00:29:38.195

Um, so for example, with the press, it’s easier to tell

 

619

00:29:38.215 –> 00:29:41.485

or see which story, and it’s also the reason why they’re

 

620

00:29:41.645 –> 00:29:44.325

actually interviewing us and not another food startup,

 

621

00:29:44.325 –> 00:29:45.765

another fish alternative startup.

 

622

00:29:46.545 –> 00:29:48.845

Um, but for our own channels like social media,

 

623

00:29:49.385 –> 00:29:52.165

we really need to make it yeah, easy to understand.

 

624

00:29:52.465 –> 00:29:54.365

Um, and sometimes that also means

 

625

00:29:54.365 –> 00:29:55.725

that seaweed can come short.

 

626

00:29:57.485 –> 00:30:01.065

Um, slide. So yeah,

 

627

00:30:01.235 –> 00:30:04.705

these were actually my five key learnings in the process.

 

628

00:30:05.405 –> 00:30:08.145

All summarized of course to make it all happen.

 

629

00:30:08.285 –> 00:30:11.065

We have like a very talented team, uh,

 

630

00:30:11.205 –> 00:30:13.345

and creative people in the marketing team.

 

631

00:30:13.415 –> 00:30:16.225

Currently we’re like three people handling all this,

 

632

00:30:16.765 –> 00:30:20.665

but we’re actually working a lot with like, um, freelancers

 

633

00:30:20.685 –> 00:30:22.545

and agencies too, just

 

634

00:30:22.545 –> 00:30:24.065

because we are such a small company,

 

635

00:30:24.725 –> 00:30:26.305

you cannot have everyone on a team.

 

636

00:30:26.645 –> 00:30:29.425

We pick and choose people and experts just when we need them

 

637

00:30:29.725 –> 00:30:32.145

and also like, um, an added bonus.

 

638

00:30:33.125 –> 00:30:36.745

Um, and we already look into future consumer trends already,

 

639

00:30:36.795 –> 00:30:39.225

which might be another bonus learning

 

640

00:30:39.845 –> 00:30:42.025

to jump on a hype train slide.

 

641

00:30:43.735 –> 00:30:46.155

So we know that there’s this huge health trend,

 

642

00:30:46.205 –> 00:30:47.795

which Kidde already talked about,

 

643

00:30:48.255 –> 00:30:50.915

and we want to leverage this for our communications as well.

 

644

00:30:52.215 –> 00:30:55.035

Me or we, we’ve picked out for potential topics

 

645

00:30:55.035 –> 00:30:58.635

that we are actually focusing on right now.

 

646

00:30:58.785 –> 00:31:02.275

Look into more and see what we can use for our product

 

647

00:31:02.375 –> 00:31:03.875

and our civic communications.

 

648

00:31:05.215 –> 00:31:08.755

And yeah, that’s actually it from my side.

 

649

00:31:10.675 –> 00:31:13.375

If you want to get in touch, um, feel free to scan the code,

 

650

00:31:13.605 –> 00:31:15.295

text me, uh, whatever.

 

651

00:31:15.475 –> 00:31:17.495

I’m really looking forward to network

 

652

00:31:17.875 –> 00:31:20.535

and exchange ideas, um, especially

 

653

00:31:20.535 –> 00:31:21.535

because I saw a lot

 

654

00:31:21.535 –> 00:31:25.455

of people working in the seaweed ingredients food industry

 

655

00:31:25.455 –> 00:31:27.655

already, and I think we can make something happen.

 

656

00:31:28.065 –> 00:31:29.065

Thank you.

 

657

00:31:29.825 –> 00:31:32.415

Thank you so much. Um, so cool

 

658

00:31:32.415 –> 00:31:34.415

to see your branding and, and messaging.

 

659

00:31:34.415 –> 00:31:37.655

It’s just so fun and approachable, so I really love that.

 

660

00:31:37.875 –> 00:31:39.895

And um, your point about the different

 

661

00:31:39.895 –> 00:31:41.335

channels is a really good one.

 

662

00:31:41.675 –> 00:31:42.815

Um, you might not be able

 

663

00:31:42.815 –> 00:31:46.335

to tell your whole story if it’s just a small space on your

 

664

00:31:46.335 –> 00:31:49.015

packaging, um, but if you have the opportunity to do so,

 

665

00:31:49.015 –> 00:31:51.255

like in the press or um, videos, then

 

666

00:31:51.255 –> 00:31:52.575

that’s a really great opportunity.

 

667

00:31:54.295 –> 00:31:58.835

Um, okay, so I’d like to pass it over now to, um,

 

668

00:31:58.835 –> 00:32:00.435

Alyssa Paste from Sway.

 

669

00:32:01.095 –> 00:32:04.475

Um, Alyssa is a multimedia communications professional,

 

670

00:32:05.155 –> 00:32:06.835

cultivating a thriving regenerative future

 

671

00:32:06.835 –> 00:32:08.475

through the power of storytelling.

 

672

00:32:08.905 –> 00:32:10.915

With nearly a decade of experience in marketing,

 

673

00:32:11.275 –> 00:32:13.075

communications, project management

 

674

00:32:13.095 –> 00:32:15.355

and partnership development, she’s growing

 

675

00:32:15.415 –> 00:32:18.235

and engaging a community that champions sways vision.

 

676

00:32:18.975 –> 00:32:21.835

Um, some past clients include the Regenerative Organic

 

677

00:32:22.235 –> 00:32:24.315

Alliance, California Native Plant Society,

 

678

00:32:24.585 –> 00:32:27.835

planned Parenthood, um, 1% for the planet and more.

 

679

00:32:28.295 –> 00:32:31.315

She carries a BA in Environmental studies from the

 

680

00:32:31.315 –> 00:32:33.075

University of California, Santa Barbara.

 

681

00:32:33.935 –> 00:32:38.525

And over to you Alyssa. Thanks Grace. And hi everybody.

 

682

00:32:38.705 –> 00:32:40.685

I’m so happy to be here with you all today.

 

683

00:32:41.305 –> 00:32:42.565

Um, thank you Cadet

 

684

00:32:42.565 –> 00:32:45.365

and Al for some amazing first presentations.

 

685

00:32:45.845 –> 00:32:47.245

I was already learning so much

 

686

00:32:47.265 –> 00:32:48.765

and I feel like the learnings that I’m about

 

687

00:32:48.765 –> 00:32:50.365

to share are very complimentary, so I hope

 

688

00:32:50.365 –> 00:32:52.605

that this feels like a really fruitful presentation

 

689

00:32:52.605 –> 00:32:53.645

for everyone listening in today.

 

690

00:32:54.505 –> 00:32:55.965

Um, so I’m Melissa Pace

 

691

00:32:55.965 –> 00:32:58.365

and I’m the communications lead with Sway.

 

692

00:32:58.945 –> 00:32:59.965

Uh, if we get to meet,

 

693

00:33:00.025 –> 00:33:02.205

let me share a little bit about Sway slide.

 

694

00:33:03.425 –> 00:33:05.925

Uh, we come in from a slightly different angle than food.

 

695

00:33:06.065 –> 00:33:08.805

Uh, we are a material innovation startup using seaweed

 

696

00:33:08.805 –> 00:33:10.725

to create home compostable packaging

 

697

00:33:11.025 –> 00:33:14.005

for consumer good brands with an eye towards a whole range

 

698

00:33:14.065 –> 00:33:17.485

of products that have increased renewable content

 

699

00:33:18.005 –> 00:33:21.325

included in an accelerated end of life slide.

 

700

00:33:22.305 –> 00:33:24.645

Our products aim to match the necessary performance

 

701

00:33:24.645 –> 00:33:28.485

qualities of single use plastic, but they regenerate social

 

702

00:33:28.745 –> 00:33:31.405

and ecological systems that plastic destroys.

 

703

00:33:31.945 –> 00:33:34.365

So as an example, this is a seaweed poly

 

704

00:33:34.585 –> 00:33:35.605

bag that you’re looking at.

 

705

00:33:35.735 –> 00:33:38.005

We’re launching this this fall with fashion brands

 

706

00:33:38.065 –> 00:33:41.085

to replace that kind of waste you receive in online orders

 

707

00:33:42.055 –> 00:33:44.585

slide sway.

 

708

00:33:44.725 –> 00:33:47.585

And many incredible peers of ours are using seaweed

 

709

00:33:47.585 –> 00:33:49.985

to fuel a regenerative material future.

 

710

00:33:50.565 –> 00:33:52.265

But seaweed is such an incredible resource.

 

711

00:33:52.385 –> 00:33:54.425

I don’t have to explain, explain that to you all.

 

712

00:33:54.885 –> 00:33:57.985

Um, its use cases seem to be infinite slide

 

713

00:33:59.065 –> 00:34:00.225

companies are using seaweed

 

714

00:34:00.225 –> 00:34:01.865

to power our regenerative food future.

 

715

00:34:02.375 –> 00:34:03.745

Like Food for Climate League

 

716

00:34:03.745 –> 00:34:06.025

and Beta fists just shared slide,

 

717

00:34:06.955 –> 00:34:10.795

a regenerative fabric future, like many of our peers slide

 

718

00:34:11.785 –> 00:34:15.035

from fertilizers to fuels to so many more use cases.

 

719

00:34:15.385 –> 00:34:17.755

Seaweed sits at the heart of a spectrum

 

720

00:34:17.895 –> 00:34:22.715

of really incredible innovation slide serving as a tool

 

721

00:34:22.775 –> 00:34:23.875

for a regenerative future.

 

722

00:34:24.775 –> 00:34:26.875

And you all, as the farmers

 

723

00:34:27.055 –> 00:34:31.755

and organizations, um, cultivating seaweed hold the key

 

724

00:34:31.755 –> 00:34:35.635

that unlock a wealth of knowledge about this wonder crop.

 

725

00:34:35.955 –> 00:34:38.515

Hmm, you have the power to paint a vision of

 

726

00:34:38.515 –> 00:34:39.875

what a seaweed future looks like

 

727

00:34:39.875 –> 00:34:41.955

through your marketing slide.

 

728

00:34:43.935 –> 00:34:45.275

Um, I’m really happy to share

 

729

00:34:45.275 –> 00:34:47.515

that Sway has garnered an incredible amount

 

730

00:34:47.575 –> 00:34:49.235

of attention in the last few years.

 

731

00:34:50.015 –> 00:34:53.555

We won first place in the Tom Ford Plastic Innovation Prize.

 

732

00:34:54.045 –> 00:34:56.675

We’re named a world changing idea by Fast Company

 

733

00:34:56.935 –> 00:34:59.075

and a finalist in the Beyond the Bag Challenge.

 

734

00:34:59.695 –> 00:35:02.675

Our work has been featured in the Guardian Forbes Financial

 

735

00:35:02.675 –> 00:35:03.875

Times Sourcing Journal,

 

736

00:35:04.135 –> 00:35:06.155

and we’ve spoken at the White House, the UN

 

737

00:35:06.175 –> 00:35:08.115

and Climate Week slide.

 

738

00:35:09.625 –> 00:35:12.045

We are championed by a community

 

739

00:35:12.045 –> 00:35:15.085

of over 125,000 on Instagram

 

740

00:35:15.345 –> 00:35:17.325

and 15,000 on LinkedIn,

 

741

00:35:17.665 –> 00:35:20.205

and we have over a thousand consumer brands in our sales

 

742

00:35:20.565 –> 00:35:21.645

pipeline slide.

 

743

00:35:22.415 –> 00:35:23.845

We’ve launched packaging partnerships

 

744

00:35:23.845 –> 00:35:25.285

with cult favorite brands like Noah,

 

745

00:35:25.285 –> 00:35:26.685

which you can see here on the left.

 

746

00:35:27.265 –> 00:35:29.285

And Florence Marine X on the right,

 

747

00:35:29.535 –> 00:35:31.445

which is the outdoor gear brand started

 

748

00:35:31.445 –> 00:35:34.645

by World Surf Champion John John Florence slide.

 

749

00:35:36.655 –> 00:35:38.635

It might surprise you that this is,

 

750

00:35:38.635 –> 00:35:40.195

this is completely organic growth.

 

751

00:35:40.225 –> 00:35:42.635

There’s no marketing budget behind any of this really,

 

752

00:35:43.055 –> 00:35:45.795

and it’s executed entirely by a two person team,

 

753

00:35:45.795 –> 00:35:49.515

which is myself and Julia Marsh Sways, co-founder, and CEO.

 

754

00:35:50.175 –> 00:35:52.275

So I’m here today to share that marketing doesn’t have

 

755

00:35:52.275 –> 00:35:54.635

to be expensive and it doesn’t need a huge

 

756

00:35:54.825 –> 00:35:56.035

team to make it work.

 

757

00:35:56.795 –> 00:35:58.435

I wanna let you in on a few of the fundamentals

 

758

00:35:58.435 –> 00:36:01.555

that I believe have really paved sway success to getting to

 

759

00:36:01.555 –> 00:36:03.955

where we are today and hopefully leave you

 

760

00:36:03.955 –> 00:36:06.315

with a few tangibles that you can integrate into your own

 

761

00:36:06.315 –> 00:36:08.075

marketing strategy slide.

 

762

00:36:10.095 –> 00:36:11.755

So to start, I think one

 

763

00:36:11.755 –> 00:36:13.075

of the most important things is just

 

764

00:36:13.075 –> 00:36:14.835

to identify your incumbent.

 

765

00:36:15.345 –> 00:36:17.115

What are you using seaweed to replace

 

766

00:36:17.115 –> 00:36:18.315

and why is that so critical?

 

767

00:36:18.975 –> 00:36:21.275

At sway, we’re using seaweed to displace oil

 

768

00:36:21.585 –> 00:36:22.995

that goes into plastics.

 

769

00:36:23.935 –> 00:36:25.395

So here are the quick facts on

 

770

00:36:25.395 –> 00:36:26.675

that industry that we’re shaking up.

 

771

00:36:27.525 –> 00:36:32.035

There are 160,000 plastic bags

 

772

00:36:32.515 –> 00:36:36.755

produced every second, every second, every second.

 

773

00:36:38.375 –> 00:36:39.515

And plastics are expected

 

774

00:36:39.515 –> 00:36:41.915

to quadruple fossil fuel demand by 2050.

 

775

00:36:42.775 –> 00:36:44.915

So identifying our audience becomes pretty easy.

 

776

00:36:45.375 –> 00:36:46.915

Our customers are brands that are looking

 

777

00:36:46.915 –> 00:36:49.755

to reduce their footprints and move away from oil.

 

778

00:36:50.535 –> 00:36:52.595

So my advice to you is find your incumbent

 

779

00:36:52.895 –> 00:36:55.835

and then round up strong facts that underscore how

 

780

00:36:55.975 –> 00:36:57.595

and why seaweed is better.

 

781

00:36:58.345 –> 00:37:00.995

That becomes the icing on the cake slide.

 

782

00:37:03.205 –> 00:37:04.585

And this might be my favorite point.

 

783

00:37:05.115 –> 00:37:07.825

Paint a picture of the future your product enables.

 

784

00:37:08.445 –> 00:37:11.425

The most asked question that sway receives is why seaweed,

 

785

00:37:11.845 –> 00:37:13.625

and I mean, frankly, who better to answer

 

786

00:37:13.625 –> 00:37:15.465

that question than everyone tuning in today?

 

787

00:37:16.045 –> 00:37:18.945

The way that we like to frame it is when cultivated

 

788

00:37:18.975 –> 00:37:22.385

responsibly, IE in line with GreenWave practices,

 

789

00:37:22.935 –> 00:37:25.825

seaweed can purify water, enhance biodiversity,

 

790

00:37:26.705 –> 00:37:28.105

mitigate the impacts of climate change

 

791

00:37:28.285 –> 00:37:30.385

and secure climate resilient employment

 

792

00:37:30.385 –> 00:37:31.465

in coastal communities.

 

793

00:37:32.085 –> 00:37:34.065

It provides all of these benefits without the need

 

794

00:37:34.065 –> 00:37:36.865

for fresh water, arable land or chemical inputs.

 

795

00:37:37.165 –> 00:37:39.465

So that’s avoiding many of the downfalls that come

 

796

00:37:39.535 –> 00:37:41.105

with terrestrial agriculture,

 

797

00:37:41.235 –> 00:37:43.065

which personally my background is in.

 

798

00:37:43.065 –> 00:37:44.465

So I love to talk about this point.

 

799

00:37:45.595 –> 00:37:48.065

These are really incredible narratives.

 

800

00:37:48.335 –> 00:37:51.345

They’re unique and pretty much untold when it comes

 

801

00:37:51.345 –> 00:37:53.745

to regeneration, circularity, and ocean health.

 

802

00:37:53.805 –> 00:37:56.425

And your brand has the opportunity to be at the forefront

 

803

00:37:56.425 –> 00:37:59.025

of the storytelling at sway.

 

804

00:37:59.025 –> 00:38:01.865

We wanna make the future look irresistible, thriving,

 

805

00:38:02.465 –> 00:38:06.305

colorful, joyful, friendly, community oriented, similar to

 

806

00:38:06.305 –> 00:38:07.465

what you’re seeing in this graphic

 

807

00:38:07.465 –> 00:38:09.745

that we use pretty amply in our marketing.

 

808

00:38:10.565 –> 00:38:12.185

But what I wanna know is what does it look like

 

809

00:38:12.185 –> 00:38:13.585

through your lens and

 

810

00:38:13.605 –> 00:38:16.305

how can this vision be reflected in your brand’s color

 

811

00:38:16.305 –> 00:38:19.345

palette, tone of voice, imagery, taglines,

 

812

00:38:20.165 –> 00:38:22.425

and how can this be done in a way that’s genuinely your own?

 

813

00:38:23.045 –> 00:38:25.465

We believe that fostering unique visual identities

 

814

00:38:25.665 –> 00:38:27.025

and diverse narratives is key

 

815

00:38:27.025 –> 00:38:29.825

to distinguishing our brand’s unique value propositions.

 

816

00:38:30.375 –> 00:38:32.585

This is an industry that is so new,

 

817

00:38:32.585 –> 00:38:34.665

there’s ample creative freedom to shape a brand

 

818

00:38:34.665 –> 00:38:36.125

that is distinctive to you.

 

819

00:38:37.125 –> 00:38:41.325

Slide make it accessible and inclusive.

 

820

00:38:42.085 –> 00:38:45.365

Sways communications are often inspired by new packaging PO

 

821

00:38:45.885 –> 00:38:49.165

policies that are released or new research papers on Ocean

 

822

00:38:49.165 –> 00:38:52.085

Health, but they’re distilled in a way that’s easy

 

823

00:38:52.085 –> 00:38:54.725

to understand and compelling to consume.

 

824

00:38:55.265 –> 00:38:56.605

As our team likes to say,

 

825

00:38:57.225 –> 00:38:59.165

you shouldn’t need a material science degree

 

826

00:38:59.165 –> 00:39:01.245

to understand why a seaweed poly bag is cool.

 

827

00:39:01.765 –> 00:39:03.045

I certainly don’t have one myself.

 

828

00:39:03.785 –> 00:39:06.685

The seaweed product movement should include everyone from my

 

829

00:39:06.685 –> 00:39:10.205

10-year-old niece to my 65-year-old mom who yeah,

 

830

00:39:10.515 –> 00:39:13.805

both follow us on Instagram slide.

 

831

00:39:15.545 –> 00:39:18.045

Um, a great tactic that I like to use for

 

832

00:39:18.045 –> 00:39:20.525

that specifically is bread crumbing your

 

833

00:39:20.525 –> 00:39:21.925

information, as I like to say.

 

834

00:39:22.385 –> 00:39:25.005

So teasing it out in a way that lures your audience

 

835

00:39:25.005 –> 00:39:26.805

to their appropriate information level.

 

836

00:39:27.505 –> 00:39:28.965

And I’ve modified this ocean metaphor

 

837

00:39:28.965 –> 00:39:30.605

for my ocean folks in the audience.

 

838

00:39:31.525 –> 00:39:34.485

Starting with level one, the dune, this is kind

 

839

00:39:34.485 –> 00:39:36.685

of like the first glance at your marketing.

 

840

00:39:37.145 –> 00:39:39.325

So the packaging that you’re seeing at the store,

 

841

00:39:39.425 –> 00:39:43.285

the social media feed, your website homepage, um, this is

 

842

00:39:43.285 –> 00:39:45.885

where you would use the most catchy user effective language

 

843

00:39:45.955 –> 00:39:47.285

like what cadet mentioned.

 

844

00:39:47.665 –> 00:39:49.765

And I love the idea of using QR codes

 

845

00:39:49.765 –> 00:39:53.245

to layer your way into the beach, which is the next level.

 

846

00:39:53.705 –> 00:39:55.125

That’s the rest of your website.

 

847

00:39:55.125 –> 00:39:57.845

Presentations, news articles, events or op-eds.

 

848

00:39:58.305 –> 00:39:59.405

And then there’s the wave.

 

849

00:39:59.745 –> 00:40:00.725

So that’s, you know, you’ve made

 

850

00:40:00.725 –> 00:40:01.565

it all the way to the ocean.

 

851

00:40:01.565 –> 00:40:04.245

There’s this seemingly infinite amount of information

 

852

00:40:04.245 –> 00:40:06.245

that you can explore and you have plenty of space to do.

 

853

00:40:06.245 –> 00:40:09.045

So this is where your case studies live,

 

854

00:40:09.355 –> 00:40:11.725

your research papers, your podcast interviews

 

855

00:40:11.905 –> 00:40:16.725

and more slide bring your audience

 

856

00:40:16.725 –> 00:40:18.645

underwater or to the water at least.

 

857

00:40:19.065 –> 00:40:20.605

Uh, not everyone has the good fortune

 

858

00:40:20.705 –> 00:40:21.805

of living near the sea,

 

859

00:40:21.865 –> 00:40:24.445

but everyone it seems in some ways

 

860

00:40:24.445 –> 00:40:25.845

captivated by the big blue.

 

861

00:40:26.465 –> 00:40:29.325

You are the lucky ones who get to experience it firsthand.

 

862

00:40:29.825 –> 00:40:33.125

So share that gift with the world. This comes in two forms.

 

863

00:40:33.125 –> 00:40:35.725

There’s information and visuals.

 

864

00:40:36.685 –> 00:40:38.925

I listed out our most asked questions

 

865

00:40:38.995 –> 00:40:42.885

because I promise you will attract an audience if you build

 

866

00:40:42.945 –> 00:40:45.885

out strategy around concert content that answers

 

867

00:40:46.785 –> 00:40:48.005

how is seaweed grown?

 

868

00:40:48.955 –> 00:40:50.485

What kinds of seaweed do you grow?

 

869

00:40:51.075 –> 00:40:52.725

What is regenerative seaweed farming?

 

870

00:40:52.995 –> 00:40:54.925

What are the benefits of growing seaweed?

 

871

00:40:55.345 –> 00:40:57.565

And how can this positively impact social

 

872

00:40:57.705 –> 00:40:58.845

and ecological systems?

 

873

00:41:00.025 –> 00:41:03.085

And as for imagery, invest in good imagery.

 

874

00:41:03.385 –> 00:41:06.885

And a lot of it, whether it’s hiring photographers

 

875

00:41:06.885 –> 00:41:09.125

to create high quality website photos

 

876

00:41:09.585 –> 00:41:13.765

or generating iPhone video to create Instagram reels,

 

877

00:41:14.315 –> 00:41:17.125

just build your robust image library up.

 

878

00:41:17.575 –> 00:41:19.845

We’ve seen those same kelp forest stock

 

879

00:41:19.845 –> 00:41:21.125

photos a million times over.

 

880

00:41:21.305 –> 00:41:25.285

So share what makes your operation unique slide

 

881

00:41:27.765 –> 00:41:29.465

and finally build your community.

 

882

00:41:29.775 –> 00:41:32.265

Perhaps the most important point I’ll make today is

 

883

00:41:32.265 –> 00:41:35.445

that sway would not be where we are without community.

 

884

00:41:36.075 –> 00:41:39.325

From day one. We’ve designed our business products

 

885

00:41:39.385 –> 00:41:42.645

and audiences through the support of our amazing allies,

 

886

00:41:43.405 –> 00:41:46.245

advisors, investors, NGOs, coalitions,

 

887

00:41:46.525 –> 00:41:49.645

academic research institutions, peers, the list goes on.

 

888

00:41:50.225 –> 00:41:52.205

We engage in reciprocal relationships

 

889

00:41:52.235 –> 00:41:53.445

with each of these allies.

 

890

00:41:53.675 –> 00:41:55.005

Writing op-eds together,

 

891

00:41:55.115 –> 00:41:57.085

designing collaborative social posts,

 

892

00:41:57.265 –> 00:42:00.885

asking strategy questions, sharing opportunities, um,

 

893

00:42:01.145 –> 00:42:04.325

and being connectors where whenever and wherever possible.

 

894

00:42:05.105 –> 00:42:07.725

So invest in these relationships, they will take you far

 

895

00:42:08.855 –> 00:42:12.645

slide Seaweed’s, renewable

 

896

00:42:12.785 –> 00:42:15.125

and regenerative nature makes it a critical

 

897

00:42:15.485 –> 00:42:16.725

resource for our future.

 

898

00:42:17.515 –> 00:42:18.845

It’s the farmers, buyers

 

899

00:42:19.385 –> 00:42:21.605

and other kelp curious folks in the audience

 

900

00:42:21.665 –> 00:42:24.125

who are here right now today listening in

 

901

00:42:24.425 –> 00:42:26.565

who are actualizing the supply chains

 

902

00:42:26.565 –> 00:42:28.045

that make this future possible.

 

903

00:42:28.825 –> 00:42:31.685

We all have a role to play, a vision to see,

 

904

00:42:31.685 –> 00:42:32.965

and a voice to speak out with.

 

905

00:42:33.685 –> 00:42:36.565

I encourage you to find yours, play and experiment with it

 

906

00:42:36.945 –> 00:42:39.085

and find the niche that makes the most impact.

 

907

00:42:39.815 –> 00:42:43.825

Slide together we are swaying the future.

 

908

00:42:44.445 –> 00:42:46.345

If you have any follow-up questions, I would love

 

909

00:42:46.345 –> 00:42:47.385

to hear from you in the chat.

 

910

00:42:48.245 –> 00:42:50.065

Thanks so much to Greenway for hosting.

 

911

00:42:51.495 –> 00:42:52.605

Thank you so much Alyssa.

 

912

00:42:53.065 –> 00:42:55.085

Um, that was super inspiring

 

913

00:42:55.145 –> 00:42:57.125

and Sway does such an incredible job

 

914

00:42:57.185 –> 00:42:59.445

of really painting a picture of that, uh,

 

915

00:42:59.445 –> 00:43:00.925

wonderful regenerative future.

 

916

00:43:01.105 –> 00:43:02.885

So really appreciate you letting us

 

917

00:43:02.885 –> 00:43:04.045

in on some of those secrets.

 

918

00:43:04.785 –> 00:43:08.325

Um, and it looks like we have about 15 minutes for q

 

919

00:43:08.485 –> 00:43:09.765

and a now, so, um,

 

920

00:43:09.825 –> 00:43:14.045

please start posting your questions in the chat, um, and,

 

921

00:43:14.385 –> 00:43:17.565

and we can pick our incredible speakers brain some more.

 

922

00:43:18.665 –> 00:43:23.245

Um, so to kick us off, um, we have an initial question,

 

923

00:43:23.575 –> 00:43:26.845

which I think is for, um, cadet, um,

 

924

00:43:26.945 –> 00:43:31.245

and it’s around sensory studies on Fresh Kelp, um,

 

925

00:43:31.645 –> 00:43:32.645

specifically by itself.

 

926

00:43:32.785 –> 00:43:34.605

Um, but have you done any sensory studies

 

927

00:43:34.715 –> 00:43:37.725

with kelp in like dishes or other ingredients

 

928

00:43:37.785 –> 00:43:39.285

or, um, on its own?

 

929

00:43:40.595 –> 00:43:42.655

That’s a really good question from Charles.

 

930

00:43:43.315 –> 00:43:48.295

Uh, keeping me on my toes, um, from a B2B perspective. Yes.

 

931

00:43:48.945 –> 00:43:51.685

So at SCL one of our projects, um,

 

932

00:43:51.885 –> 00:43:55.325

involves developing this market strategy for Alaskan kelp

 

933

00:43:55.325 –> 00:43:59.805

and oysters in the lower 48, so increasing the uptake, um,

 

934

00:43:59.945 –> 00:44:02.005

of, of those ingredients and those products.

 

935

00:44:02.345 –> 00:44:05.725

So, uh, as part of our marketing segmentation research,

 

936

00:44:06.225 –> 00:44:07.845

we actually interviewed chefs

 

937

00:44:07.985 –> 00:44:10.245

and stakeholders to help us do

 

938

00:44:10.315 –> 00:44:13.005

what we call a ingredient evaluation.

 

939

00:44:13.585 –> 00:44:16.445

So do, through that evaluation, we were able

 

940

00:44:16.445 –> 00:44:19.085

to understand the various different, uh,

 

941

00:44:19.085 –> 00:44:23.805

product opportunities for kelp from a sensory, uh,

 

942

00:44:24.565 –> 00:44:25.885

culinary nutritional perspective.

 

943

00:44:26.345 –> 00:44:29.765

And then from there we were able to make a couple specific,

 

944

00:44:30.025 –> 00:44:33.045

uh, recommendations for application and food service

 

945

00:44:33.425 –> 00:44:34.445

and CPG.

 

946

00:44:34.705 –> 00:44:38.165

So I, I don’t have the actual report with me now,

 

947

00:44:38.305 –> 00:44:42.125

but I do remember a key insight is that in, um, you know,

 

948

00:44:42.125 –> 00:44:46.045

we looked at the different species of kelp, um, in, in

 

949

00:44:46.045 –> 00:44:48.925

that part of the us so looking at sugar ribbon and,

 

950

00:44:50.185 –> 00:44:51.845

and we found that sugar

 

951

00:44:52.025 –> 00:44:54.925

and ribbon tend to have the greatest versatility

 

952

00:44:55.065 –> 00:44:59.445

and can be used, you know, blanched in salads, uh,

 

953

00:44:59.445 –> 00:45:03.365

freeze dried in snacks, uh, dehydrated was noodle,

 

954

00:45:03.865 –> 00:45:06.285

but Bull Whip has this really like unique shape

 

955

00:45:06.625 –> 00:45:07.725

and briny flavor

 

956

00:45:07.945 –> 00:45:10.925

and we found that it was actually better suited for pickles

 

957

00:45:10.985 –> 00:45:14.845

and, and sauces and, you know, dehydrated in seasonings.

 

958

00:45:15.225 –> 00:45:17.245

So those were a couple of insights

 

959

00:45:17.245 –> 00:45:19.205

that I remember from our evaluation.

 

960

00:45:20.775 –> 00:45:22.865

Awesome, thank you so much for sharing all that.

 

961

00:45:23.245 –> 00:45:25.185

Um, t did you have anything to add?

 

962

00:45:25.255 –> 00:45:28.225

Have have you done any sensory testing at Bed Fish?

 

963

00:45:30.755 –> 00:45:34.215

Um, not on the kelp itself. Actually.

 

964

00:45:34.435 –> 00:45:38.255

We do do a lot of sensory tests with our tuna

 

965

00:45:38.255 –> 00:45:41.735

and our Sonna, um, but not on like real kelp.

 

966

00:45:44.435 –> 00:45:47.765

Awesome. Um, any insights from the, uh, tuna

 

967

00:45:48.345 –> 00:45:50.205

or salmon sensory testing?

 

968

00:45:51.965 –> 00:45:54.295

Yeah, I think they’re pretty interesting actually

 

969

00:45:54.295 –> 00:45:58.055

because we started of course with like a green blob

 

970

00:45:59.435 –> 00:46:02.455

and um, then of course we have, um, the luck

 

971

00:46:02.555 –> 00:46:05.335

to be in a coworking space here at Kitchen Town.

 

972

00:46:05.875 –> 00:46:08.335

So it’s like a hub, innovation hub

 

973

00:46:08.395 –> 00:46:10.495

for all food startups a located in Berlin,

 

974

00:46:11.275 –> 00:46:14.895

and of course Kitchen Town has a lot of, um, networking, uh,

 

975

00:46:14.895 –> 00:46:16.655

like network op opportunities.

 

976

00:46:17.435 –> 00:46:19.935

Um, so we do these kind of sensory tests

 

977

00:46:19.935 –> 00:46:21.615

with like hundreds of people sometimes.

 

978

00:46:22.595 –> 00:46:25.175

And then by that we just keep improving the,

 

979

00:46:25.715 –> 00:46:29.215

our two now our products, um, in the beginning, as I said,

 

980

00:46:29.215 –> 00:46:30.735

it was like some,

 

981

00:46:31.565 –> 00:46:33.855

some m we didn’t even get the texture right.

 

982

00:46:34.235 –> 00:46:36.455

Uh, we started with sandwiches, we started with pizza

 

983

00:46:36.455 –> 00:46:38.455

because this is what, it was easier for us

 

984

00:46:38.455 –> 00:46:40.855

because anything that’s mixed in with Mayo

 

985

00:46:40.855 –> 00:46:43.455

or mixed in with something else, which is easier to

 

986

00:46:44.365 –> 00:46:45.775

make it taste like tuna,

 

987

00:46:46.075 –> 00:46:48.055

but the texture is something we just, uh,

 

988

00:46:48.055 –> 00:46:49.495

really succeeded last year.

 

989

00:46:50.275 –> 00:46:52.175

So it was a journey of two years.

 

990

00:46:54.145 –> 00:46:55.995

Cool. Thank you so much for sharing those insights.

 

991

00:46:56.935 –> 00:46:59.515

Um, we have a question from Oakley.

 

992

00:46:59.855 –> 00:47:02.275

Um, and, and maybe I’ll start us off with this,

 

993

00:47:02.275 –> 00:47:03.715

and then if any panelists wanna jump

 

994

00:47:03.735 –> 00:47:04.835

in, you’re more than welcome to.

 

995

00:47:05.575 –> 00:47:09.035

Um, so as a nascent industry, particularly in the states

 

996

00:47:09.255 –> 00:47:12.395

and demand being limited, um, do you see the development

 

997

00:47:12.395 –> 00:47:15.315

of demand more in food or biotechnology applications?

 

998

00:47:15.695 –> 00:47:18.395

Um, granted it’s subject to plenty of variables,

 

999

00:47:18.415 –> 00:47:19.675

but rough expectations.

 

1000

00:47:20.415 –> 00:47:22.275

Um, and obviously this is,

 

1001

00:47:22.275 –> 00:47:25.355

this is a question we get asked a lot, um, at GreenWave

 

1002

00:47:25.355 –> 00:47:27.475

and other organizations here across the board.

 

1003

00:47:27.935 –> 00:47:30.405

Um, and I think, you know, as we all know,

 

1004

00:47:30.835 –> 00:47:33.765

seaweed right now the primary market is food and,

 

1005

00:47:33.785 –> 00:47:36.085

and there is a lot of potential for growth there.

 

1006

00:47:36.305 –> 00:47:39.405

Um, as cadets has touched on in, in food service

 

1007

00:47:39.505 –> 00:47:41.565

and working with chefs and CPG products.

 

1008

00:47:42.025 –> 00:47:46.005

Um, but there’s equal potential in whether it’s agriculture

 

1009

00:47:46.145 –> 00:47:48.925

or materials, um, across the board.

 

1010

00:47:48.985 –> 00:47:51.365

You know, cosmetics are a big opportunity area,

 

1011

00:47:51.815 –> 00:47:54.325

extracting valuable compounds from seaweed.

 

1012

00:47:54.705 –> 00:47:57.925

Um, so there isn’t just one potential application.

 

1013

00:47:58.265 –> 00:48:01.365

And I think there are, there are so many potentials as,

 

1014

00:48:01.385 –> 00:48:02.765

as Alyssa talked about as well.

 

1015

00:48:03.385 –> 00:48:06.325

Um, do any panelists have something to add?

 

1016

00:48:07.835 –> 00:48:09.685

Yeah, I, I would add here, I’m,

 

1017

00:48:09.685 –> 00:48:13.405

I’m not an expert on US production versus global production,

 

1018

00:48:13.405 –> 00:48:16.445

but there’s a really amazing report done by the World Bank

 

1019

00:48:16.445 –> 00:48:18.765

that identifies 10 different categories

 

1020

00:48:18.785 –> 00:48:20.805

of emerging seaweed based products.

 

1021

00:48:21.305 –> 00:48:23.485

Uh, like Grace said, food is going to be number one there,

 

1022

00:48:23.545 –> 00:48:26.685

but Sea seaweed based bioplastics, like

 

1023

00:48:26.685 –> 00:48:28.365

what Sway is creating was positioned

 

1024

00:48:28.365 –> 00:48:30.965

as a medium term growth opportunity.

 

1025

00:48:31.515 –> 00:48:34.925

This report came out a couple years ago, so it, it channeled

 

1026

00:48:34.925 –> 00:48:35.965

that 2000

 

1027

00:48:36.145 –> 00:48:38.445

or 2024 to 2028,

 

1028

00:48:38.525 –> 00:48:41.005

I believe would be like the biggest growth years for that.

 

1029

00:48:41.065 –> 00:48:42.565

So I’ll find that report

 

1030

00:48:42.565 –> 00:48:44.085

and I can throw it in the chat if

 

1031

00:48:44.085 –> 00:48:45.165

you wanna take a look yourself.

 

1032

00:48:46.245 –> 00:48:47.255

Yeah, that would be great.

 

1033

00:48:47.395 –> 00:48:50.095

Um, yeah, there are definitely market reports out there.

 

1034

00:48:50.635 –> 00:48:53.575

Um, and another resource that I’ll mention at the very end,

 

1035

00:48:53.795 –> 00:48:56.775

um, GreenWave is actually we just launched an emerging

 

1036

00:48:56.925 –> 00:48:59.375

buyer’s guide, um, where we touch on a lot

 

1037

00:48:59.375 –> 00:49:00.815

of the existing market research

 

1038

00:49:01.115 –> 00:49:04.055

and potential applications for kelp as well as,

 

1039

00:49:04.195 –> 00:49:05.815

um, functional benefits.

 

1040

00:49:05.955 –> 00:49:07.815

So, um, that’s a really great resource

 

1041

00:49:07.875 –> 00:49:09.495

for folks looking to learn more.

 

1042

00:49:10.515 –> 00:49:13.015

Um, let’s move to our next question.

 

1043

00:49:13.275 –> 00:49:16.255

So, um, Mike is asking, um,

 

1044

00:49:18.665 –> 00:49:21.775

About, um, the terms c vegetables

 

1045

00:49:22.515 –> 00:49:26.295

and, um, if, if trying to use a different name

 

1046

00:49:26.355 –> 00:49:29.215

for seaweed such as sea vegetables might do it a disservice.

 

1047

00:49:29.995 –> 00:49:33.255

Um, and specifically different producers have different

 

1048

00:49:33.255 –> 00:49:35.575

preferences to market their products, um, whether

 

1049

00:49:35.575 –> 00:49:37.615

that’s species or product, et cetera.

 

1050

00:49:38.035 –> 00:49:41.095

Um, you know, I, I know for example that, um,

 

1051

00:49:42.035 –> 00:49:45.775

the brand 12 tides like likes to use the word, um, kelp

 

1052

00:49:45.835 –> 00:49:47.015

as opposed to seaweed since

 

1053

00:49:47.015 –> 00:49:49.135

that can differentiate them from some

 

1054

00:49:49.135 –> 00:49:50.855

of the existing products on the market.

 

1055

00:49:51.115 –> 00:49:53.895

Um, and, and maybe like imported products from Asia.

 

1056

00:49:54.475 –> 00:49:56.655

Um, so cadet, do you wanna share a bit more about

 

1057

00:49:56.655 –> 00:49:59.175

that term sea vegetables and what you found?

 

1058

00:50:00.355 –> 00:50:03.805

Sure. I think ultimately there is flexibility

 

1059

00:50:04.115 –> 00:50:06.445

with these communication best practices.

 

1060

00:50:07.065 –> 00:50:10.605

So, uh, really it’s really important

 

1061

00:50:10.625 –> 00:50:13.965

to tailor these labels based on your specific context

 

1062

00:50:14.105 –> 00:50:18.045

and audience ultimately, you know, best, uh,

 

1063

00:50:18.385 –> 00:50:19.445

for your consumers.

 

1064

00:50:19.705 –> 00:50:21.525

And in our research we found

 

1065

00:50:21.525 –> 00:50:25.125

that while in CPG it was more effective to all

 

1066

00:50:25.505 –> 00:50:28.365

or to refer to seaweeds as sea vegetables in food service,

 

1067

00:50:28.665 –> 00:50:32.445

it was actually more resonant to eaters to refer

 

1068

00:50:32.445 –> 00:50:33.885

to sea vegetables by their names.

 

1069

00:50:34.225 –> 00:50:36.885

So if you’re using kelp, you, you call it kelp,

 

1070

00:50:36.885 –> 00:50:37.925

if you’re using dos,

 

1071

00:50:37.985 –> 00:50:40.925

you call it do you’re using nori, call it Nori.

 

1072

00:50:41.145 –> 00:50:43.445

So I, I think there’s flexibility with that approach

 

1073

00:50:43.585 –> 00:50:47.085

and it really just depends on the context and the audience.

 

1074

00:50:49.115 –> 00:50:50.535

Thanks for that. Um,

 

1075

00:50:50.915 –> 00:50:53.535

the next question’s actually about this terminology as well.

 

1076

00:50:54.115 –> 00:50:58.015

Um, so they’re wondering, um, you know,

 

1077

00:50:58.165 –> 00:51:00.975

obviously you mentioned sea vegetables and then be fish

 

1078

00:51:01.035 –> 00:51:04.415

and sway, um, use the word seaweed a lot in their products

 

1079

00:51:04.415 –> 00:51:05.735

and in their packaging.

 

1080

00:51:06.115 –> 00:51:07.295

Um, so as you said,

 

1081

00:51:07.295 –> 00:51:09.095

there are definitely different approaches and,

 

1082

00:51:09.115 –> 00:51:10.975

and it really depends on your target audience.

 

1083

00:51:11.475 –> 00:51:14.575

Um, have you or anyone else, um, on this panel,

 

1084

00:51:14.575 –> 00:51:15.895

have you done research

 

1085

00:51:15.915 –> 00:51:18.615

or do you have any insights around the term algae as opposed

 

1086

00:51:18.675 –> 00:51:20.455

to seaweed or sea vegetables?

 

1087

00:51:23.475 –> 00:51:26.215

Uh, so we haven’t done any research, it’s just

 

1088

00:51:26.255 –> 00:51:28.775

because we, I think seaweed

 

1089

00:51:28.775 –> 00:51:32.695

and al algae is like two different type of plants

 

1090

00:51:33.395 –> 00:51:35.975

or that’s what our r and d team tells me.

 

1091

00:51:36.555 –> 00:51:40.695

Um, so we are using seaweed, so we use like red seaweed,

 

1092

00:51:40.695 –> 00:51:44.855

brown seaweed and um, green algae,

 

1093

00:51:44.995 –> 00:51:46.975

and these are like type of seaweed.

 

1094

00:51:46.975 –> 00:51:49.255

So that’s why we use this this term.

 

1095

00:51:49.765 –> 00:51:51.415

Also, we don’t use kelp as a name

 

1096

00:51:51.415 –> 00:51:54.815

because kelp is only part of, um, yeah, brown algae.

 

1097

00:51:55.235 –> 00:51:57.135

And the overall term is just seaweed.

 

1098

00:51:57.135 –> 00:52:00.735

And we use like a mix of different, uh, seaweed species,

 

1099

00:52:00.825 –> 00:52:04.175

which is why we decided on the name seaweed, a lot

 

1100

00:52:04.175 –> 00:52:05.215

of seaweed mentioned now.

 

1101

00:52:05.675 –> 00:52:07.655

Um, and also translated in German

 

1102

00:52:07.655 –> 00:52:10.055

because we, of course we market in German a lot.

 

1103

00:52:10.715 –> 00:52:12.975

We don’t say a, we say like Migos A,

 

1104

00:52:13.345 –> 00:52:17.455

which actually translate to ocean seaweed, ocean agi.

 

1105

00:52:18.115 –> 00:52:21.535

Um, just to add like a positive connotation into the world

 

1106

00:52:22.035 –> 00:52:25.415

and make it more yeah, attractive to end consumers.

 

1107

00:52:27.505 –> 00:52:30.715

Super interesting. Alyssa, do you have insights?

 

1108

00:52:30.935 –> 00:52:33.355

Um, why does sway talk about seaweed?

 

1109

00:52:34.265 –> 00:52:36.275

Yeah, this is a little bit more food for thought here,

 

1110

00:52:36.295 –> 00:52:38.155

but I’m, I wanna ponder it with you all.

 

1111

00:52:38.335 –> 00:52:41.835

Um, I know that Cades said that they have avoid seaweed

 

1112

00:52:42.035 –> 00:52:44.915

because generally the public doesn’t wanna be

 

1113

00:52:44.915 –> 00:52:46.035

consuming weeds.

 

1114

00:52:46.575 –> 00:52:49.275

Uh, we don’t shy away from seaweed. We do love that term.

 

1115

00:52:49.295 –> 00:52:50.475

We love seaweed itself.

 

1116

00:52:50.655 –> 00:52:52.755

Um, and we’re trying to kind of change the narrative around

 

1117

00:52:52.755 –> 00:52:54.835

what seaweed is, but also I wonder

 

1118

00:52:54.835 –> 00:52:58.555

because we’re creating packaging, it’s a cool concept

 

1119

00:52:58.575 –> 00:53:00.875

to think about weeds, uh,

 

1120

00:53:01.045 –> 00:53:04.755

being turned like upcycled into this really amazing, um,

 

1121

00:53:05.185 –> 00:53:07.275

product, you know, that’s not being consumed.

 

1122

00:53:07.415 –> 00:53:10.115

So just curious how that, how that lands.

 

1123

00:53:10.255 –> 00:53:12.555

And then yeah, to expand we do like

 

1124

00:53:12.555 –> 00:53:13.915

to get a little bit more specific.

 

1125

00:53:14.015 –> 00:53:17.475

We use all kinds of seaweeds, like tau was saying, uh,

 

1126

00:53:17.475 –> 00:53:18.875

but we do like to differentiate

 

1127

00:53:19.065 –> 00:53:21.515

that we’re using responsibly farmed

 

1128

00:53:21.515 –> 00:53:24.755

or regeneratively ocean farmed macro algae.

 

1129

00:53:27.615 –> 00:53:29.835

Thanks so much. Um, and,

 

1130

00:53:29.975 –> 00:53:32.035

and while I have you, Alyssa, there’s another question

 

1131

00:53:32.095 –> 00:53:34.635

for you, um, which is just about your product

 

1132

00:53:35.295 –> 00:53:38.835

and um, specifically how long does it take for your, um,

 

1133

00:53:39.365 –> 00:53:42.515

bioplastic to decompose using, um, backyard

 

1134

00:53:42.575 –> 00:53:44.395

or at home composting techniques?

 

1135

00:53:45.145 –> 00:53:46.715

Yeah, thank you for asking Erin.

 

1136

00:53:47.055 –> 00:53:48.955

Uh, so I can’t really speak to our peers,

 

1137

00:53:49.015 –> 00:53:50.155

but first wave specifically,

 

1138

00:53:50.215 –> 00:53:52.995

we are always designing our products to be in line

 

1139

00:53:52.995 –> 00:53:55.955

with the gold standard of home composting legislation.

 

1140

00:53:56.295 –> 00:53:58.995

So we adhere to TUV Austria’s Home

 

1141

00:53:58.995 –> 00:54:00.555

and Industrial Compost Certification,

 

1142

00:54:01.135 –> 00:54:04.515

our very first product First wave is already certified.

 

1143

00:54:04.895 –> 00:54:07.435

And essentially that just, um, it means

 

1144

00:54:07.435 –> 00:54:10.715

that it will break down within 180 days in a

 

1145

00:54:10.715 –> 00:54:12.315

healthy backyard compost.

 

1146

00:54:12.655 –> 00:54:14.395

So it’s gotta have the microbes heat

 

1147

00:54:14.395 –> 00:54:16.075

and humidity to make it all possible.

 

1148

00:54:16.575 –> 00:54:19.115

Um, but with that first product, it’s actually been shown

 

1149

00:54:19.135 –> 00:54:22.075

to break down and as little as six to eight weeks,

 

1150

00:54:22.965 –> 00:54:24.875

we’re going through the certification process

 

1151

00:54:25.215 –> 00:54:27.235

for our newer film, which was the poly bag

 

1152

00:54:27.235 –> 00:54:28.595

that I showed in my presentation.

 

1153

00:54:29.255 –> 00:54:31.555

And that might take a couple weeks longer,

 

1154

00:54:31.895 –> 00:54:35.275

but it will still be within 180 days no matter what.

 

1155

00:54:36.915 –> 00:54:39.535

So incredible. Um, yeah, just,

 

1156

00:54:39.535 –> 00:54:41.335

just such important work that you all are doing.

 

1157

00:54:41.475 –> 00:54:46.295

So thank you so much. Um, I think that’s,

 

1158

00:54:46.295 –> 00:54:47.735

that’s it on the questions.

 

1159

00:54:48.475 –> 00:54:51.135

Um, if, if anything else comes up, feel free

 

1160

00:54:51.135 –> 00:54:52.135

to post it in the chat.

 

1161

00:54:52.595 –> 00:54:55.455

Um, any, any final thoughts from any of our speakers?

 

1162

00:54:55.455 –> 00:54:57.255

If not, I can close us out for the day.

 

1163

00:55:01.475 –> 00:55:04.395

Awesome. Um, well,

 

1164

00:55:05.435 –> 00:55:07.035

I can’t believe I’m saying this, um,

 

1165

00:55:07.255 –> 00:55:09.795

but next month is actually our final seat

 

1166

00:55:09.795 –> 00:55:11.275

to sale conversation for the season.

 

1167

00:55:11.895 –> 00:55:15.395

Um, it’s been such an incredible journey with you all, um,

 

1168

00:55:15.805 –> 00:55:17.315

since February 20, 24.

 

1169

00:55:17.655 –> 00:55:21.435

And, um, next month we have a really fun topic as well.

 

1170

00:55:21.735 –> 00:55:23.835

Um, so we’ll be talking about, um,

 

1171

00:55:24.195 –> 00:55:25.195

thriving in the blue economy

 

1172

00:55:25.855 –> 00:55:28.755

and, um, we’ll be bringing in accelerators, investors

 

1173

00:55:29.055 –> 00:55:32.115

and startups to share their, um, experiences

 

1174

00:55:32.175 –> 00:55:35.195

and some of the resources available to companies who want

 

1175

00:55:35.195 –> 00:55:36.555

to help bring seaweed to market.

 

1176

00:55:37.015 –> 00:55:39.075

Um, there, there are a lot of resources

 

1177

00:55:39.415 –> 00:55:41.475

and we’re really excited to share that with you all.

 

1178

00:55:41.975 –> 00:55:44.195

Um, should be a super lively discussion,

 

1179

00:55:44.335 –> 00:55:45.995

so hoping to see you all there.

 

1180

00:55:47.465 –> 00:55:49.525

Um, and, and that’s it for today.

 

1181

00:55:49.825 –> 00:55:52.525

Um, thank you all again, just a quick request.

 

1182

00:55:52.745 –> 00:55:54.685

Um, we’re going to post a feedback survey.

 

1183

00:55:55.225 –> 00:55:57.965

Um, we’ll send it both via email and live right now.

 

1184

00:55:58.065 –> 00:55:59.805

So please, please, please fill that out.

 

1185

00:56:00.025 –> 00:56:01.045

We really appreciate it.

 

1186

00:56:01.665 –> 00:56:04.485

Um, if you have any additional questions, um, either

 

1187

00:56:04.505 –> 00:56:06.765

for GreenWave or our speakers, you’re always welcome

 

1188

00:56:06.825 –> 00:56:08.285

to email us, um,

 

1189

00:56:08.385 –> 00:56:10.605

or post your questions in our hub community.

 

1190

00:56:10.995 –> 00:56:13.085

We’d love to chat with you further and see you there.

 

1191

00:56:13.585 –> 00:56:15.845

Um, and I mentioned this briefly during the q and a,

 

1192

00:56:15.845 –> 00:56:18.805

but I also wanted to take a moment to highlight this, um,

 

1193

00:56:18.805 –> 00:56:20.885

incredible new resource from GreenWave.

 

1194

00:56:21.345 –> 00:56:24.645

Um, uh, a roadmap for emerging kelp processors and buyers.

 

1195

00:56:25.305 –> 00:56:30.085

Um, we, we spent the time pulling together 82 resources, um,

 

1196

00:56:30.305 –> 00:56:33.685

and, and getting insights from active kelp farmers, buyers,

 

1197

00:56:34.265 –> 00:56:36.885

um, and direct trade experts on land, um,

 

1198

00:56:36.945 –> 00:56:40.285

to compile this guide for anyone looking to purchase kelp.

 

1199

00:56:40.785 –> 00:56:44.605

Um, it has detailed information on kelp components, um,

 

1200

00:56:45.165 –> 00:56:46.925

functional benefits by market sector,

 

1201

00:56:47.525 –> 00:56:49.205

a sourcing specification worksheet,

 

1202

00:56:49.305 –> 00:56:52.045

and um, best practice for direct trade with farmers.

 

1203

00:56:52.665 –> 00:56:54.525

So Sarah posted that link in the chat.

 

1204

00:56:54.625 –> 00:56:56.965

Um, we really encourage you to check it out as you start

 

1205

00:56:56.965 –> 00:56:59.685

to think about your sourcing strategy, um,

 

1206

00:56:59.785 –> 00:57:01.405

for the 2025 season

 

1207

00:57:01.785 –> 00:57:04.205

and start talking to, um, suppliers

 

1208

00:57:04.205 –> 00:57:06.325

so they can get the right amount of kelp in the water.

 

1209

00:57:07.225 –> 00:57:09.005

Um, thank you again for joining us

 

1210

00:57:09.345 –> 00:57:11.045

and hope to see you all in August.

 

1211

00:57:12.765 –> 00:57:14.385

Thanks so much, GreenWave team.

 

1212

00:57:15.095 –> 00:57:18.305

Yeah, thank you for having me. Thanks. Thank you so much.

 

1213

00:57:19.125 –> 00:57:20.585

Bye everyone. Thanks. Bye.

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