Ocean Farming Challenges

Farmer Stories – Ocean farmers share practical solutions to common obstacles in ocean farming. They discuss developing resilient farm systems over a three-year learning curve, evolving their gear designs, and maintaining equipment despite environmental challenges like boat traffic and driftwood. Farmers explain strategies for navigating regulatory hurdles and building markets through innovative chef partnerships. Water quality concerns from coastal development underscore kelp’s valuable role in extracting nitrogen and carbon from impacted waters, while northern farmers offer insights on protecting crops from winter ice conditions.

Transcript

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You know, every form has

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fundamental problems to figure out.

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You have to figure out how to maintain the integrity, uh,

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of your farm in all its connections, uh,

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to the bottom bags connected to lines.

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And so it requires an enormous amount of research in terms

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of materials, design, process, methodology.

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And it took us a good, you know, three years, uh,

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before we really, really had a handle on things.

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Um, and in those three years, uh, we made sure

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that we didn't grow.

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Uh, we didn't really, you know,

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we didn't double our crop or anything like that.

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Um, it struck me as something that, you know,

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you really have to figure out these things

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before you can, you know, hit the gas pedal.

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Um, and, you know, along that journey we realized, um, some

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of our critical questions changed.

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So, where we used to ask ourselves,

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how are we gonna prevent Shafing completely?

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Um, now we know that that's not a possibility.

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So the fundamental question for us is, um,

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how do we service gear when there is shafing in real time,

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uh, where we don't lose any time?

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And so that's been our focus

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and we've sort of mastered that as well.

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The first year we put out, uh,

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which I tried a crowd like 10,000 feet of line into,

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into my space, and, um, it was a lot of, it was a nightmare.

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So, um, so yeah, I, that was a lesson right there. It's

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Like the, the first year we, we had, um, no support.

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The idea was, is that we could have run the whole system

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off tension alone.

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So we had a 400 foot section with

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no support in the middle, no flotation.

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Um, it, it didn't work.

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And so the second year we, we tried spreader bar units

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that were free floating.

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Uh, that didn't work.

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And so now we've ended up with a system that now is,

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is everything's supported along these,

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we call 'em set lines or, or whatever.

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And so that, that was a big lesson.

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Once you get the seed out,

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there's not really much you could do

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for it other than check on it all the time, hope

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that you don't get driftwood or a boat driving through it,

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or people messing with, you know, anchor lines

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or, I don't know.

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There's been all sorts of things.

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I've found braided line from someone's halibut reel holding

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five lines together.

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Uh, we believe we had someone pull our anchor thinking it

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was a crab pot.

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We had huge piece of driftwood come in, uh,

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in the summertime after we harvested.

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We had a guy drive right over the top

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of the one framing line that wasn't quite deep enough.

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And, you know, so just all of trying

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to balance all those things and watch and monitor the kelp,

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It took me two years before I was able to secure a permit.

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Uh, the initial reaction was just plain negative

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because people didn't understand

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what we were doing or, or why.

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Uh, but I, I believe in this, this type of farming

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and I stuck with it, and I'm gonna continue.

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Uh, we still are facing

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regulatory hurdles, but it's getting better.

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I think figuring out a market for the sugar kelp has been

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the absolute biggest challenge,

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but it's one that's really fun to think about

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and try to figure out.

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One of the ways that we approach this sort of unique market

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situation that we're in, in Connecticut since we lack the

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processing infrastructure, was

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by creating a New England Sugar Kelp Harvest celebration,

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where we encourage local restaurants to put a seaweed,

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a locally cultivated seaweed item on the menu.

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And it needs to be, uh, starting with a fresh product.

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So, you know, we would give them fresh seaweed

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and they would go ahead and create

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whatever they wanted with it.

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And it turned into an amazing, um, sort of competition

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among a, a lot of local chefs.

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We think that economic injustice has been a major

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challenge for us, just over to our left as an area known

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as Billionaires Row.

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And it's the wealthiest people in America

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who have homes there

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and all of their waste from these just huge estates

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with 27 bathrooms goes into our water.

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And COVID-19 presented a huge crisis to us

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with a mass exodus of people fleeing from New York City

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into, uh, this area known as Shinnecock Hills, which, uh,

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surrounds the Shinnecock Bay, the body of water

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that we're attempting to clean up

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and all of their waste is going directly into the water.

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And so for us, a huge purpose of cultivating kelp is

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to extract nitrogen and carbon from the water.

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And so we are just

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fighting this overdevelopment at such a rapid pace.

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So being able to get our kelp seeds out into the water

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as soon as possible has been a challenge.

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I guess the biggest threat, or the biggest concern is ice.

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So if you're in a system

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that's gonna get a thick ice, this might not work.

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If it's a thin ice and you can keep the lines submerged,

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at least a, a couple people below the bottom,

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it should be fine.
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Featured Speakers:

Paul McCormick
Great Gun Oysters
Mike Doall
Stony Brook University
Alf Pryor
Owner/Operator at Alaska Ocean Farms
Nick Mangini
Kodiak Island Sustainable Seaweed
Suzie Flores
Founding Member, Sugar Kelp Cooperative
Tela Troge
Shinnecock Kelp Farmers