Ocean Farming Challenges
Farmer Stories – Ocean farmers share practical solutions to common obstacles in ocean farming. They discuss developing resilient farm systems over a three-year learning curve, evolving their gear designs, and maintaining equipment despite environmental challenges like boat traffic and driftwood. Farmers explain strategies for navigating regulatory hurdles and building markets through innovative chef partnerships. Water quality concerns from coastal development underscore kelp’s valuable role in extracting nitrogen and carbon from impacted waters, while northern farmers offer insights on protecting crops from winter ice conditions.
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1 00:00:17.085 --> 00:00:18.025 You know, every form has 2 00:00:18.025 --> 00:00:19.305 fundamental problems to figure out. 3 00:00:19.725 --> 00:00:23.265 You have to figure out how to maintain the integrity, uh, 4 00:00:23.405 --> 00:00:26.865 of your farm in all its connections, uh, 5 00:00:27.285 --> 00:00:29.625 to the bottom bags connected to lines. 6 00:00:30.285 --> 00:00:33.185 And so it requires an enormous amount of research in terms 7 00:00:33.185 --> 00:00:35.705 of materials, design, process, methodology. 8 00:00:36.565 --> 00:00:39.825 And it took us a good, you know, three years, uh, 9 00:00:39.845 --> 00:00:42.225 before we really, really had a handle on things. 10 00:00:42.845 --> 00:00:45.425 Um, and in those three years, uh, we made sure 11 00:00:45.425 --> 00:00:46.865 that we didn't grow. 12 00:00:47.085 --> 00:00:48.225 Uh, we didn't really, you know, 13 00:00:48.225 --> 00:00:50.105 we didn't double our crop or anything like that. 14 00:00:50.685 --> 00:00:53.465 Um, it struck me as something that, you know, 15 00:00:53.465 --> 00:00:54.705 you really have to figure out these things 16 00:00:54.705 --> 00:00:57.105 before you can, you know, hit the gas pedal. 17 00:00:57.725 --> 00:01:02.545 Um, and, you know, along that journey we realized, um, some 18 00:01:02.545 --> 00:01:04.065 of our critical questions changed. 19 00:01:04.245 --> 00:01:05.785 So, where we used to ask ourselves, 20 00:01:06.085 --> 00:01:07.865 how are we gonna prevent Shafing completely? 21 00:01:08.605 --> 00:01:12.025 Um, now we know that that's not a possibility. 22 00:01:12.445 --> 00:01:15.145 So the fundamental question for us is, um, 23 00:01:16.285 --> 00:01:19.985 how do we service gear when there is shafing in real time, 24 00:01:20.525 --> 00:01:22.105 uh, where we don't lose any time? 25 00:01:23.285 --> 00:01:24.865 And so that's been our focus 26 00:01:24.885 --> 00:01:26.345 and we've sort of mastered that as well. 27 00:01:27.245 --> 00:01:28.705 The first year we put out, uh, 28 00:01:28.705 --> 00:01:31.985 which I tried a crowd like 10,000 feet of line into, 29 00:01:32.095 --> 00:01:35.465 into my space, and, um, it was a lot of, it was a nightmare. 30 00:01:35.765 --> 00:01:40.545 So, um, so yeah, I, that was a lesson right there. It's 31 00:01:40.895 --> 00:01:44.065 Like the, the first year we, we had, um, no support. 32 00:01:44.325 --> 00:01:46.465 The idea was, is that we could have run the whole system 33 00:01:46.525 --> 00:01:47.625 off tension alone. 34 00:01:47.805 --> 00:01:49.705 So we had a 400 foot section with 35 00:01:50.445 --> 00:01:52.465 no support in the middle, no flotation. 36 00:01:53.325 --> 00:01:55.225 Um, it, it didn't work. 37 00:01:55.525 --> 00:01:58.945 And so the second year we, we tried spreader bar units 38 00:01:59.575 --> 00:02:01.345 that were free floating. 39 00:02:02.125 --> 00:02:03.185 Uh, that didn't work. 40 00:02:03.445 --> 00:02:05.985 And so now we've ended up with a system that now is, 41 00:02:06.045 --> 00:02:08.145 is everything's supported along these, 42 00:02:08.245 --> 00:02:10.545 we call 'em set lines or, or whatever. 43 00:02:10.765 --> 00:02:12.905 And so that, that was a big lesson. 44 00:02:13.455 --> 00:02:14.625 Once you get the seed out, 45 00:02:15.575 --> 00:02:17.185 there's not really much you could do 46 00:02:17.405 --> 00:02:19.945 for it other than check on it all the time, hope 47 00:02:19.945 --> 00:02:22.545 that you don't get driftwood or a boat driving through it, 48 00:02:22.685 --> 00:02:25.185 or people messing with, you know, anchor lines 49 00:02:25.285 --> 00:02:26.425 or, I don't know. 50 00:02:26.425 --> 00:02:27.505 There's been all sorts of things. 51 00:02:27.575 --> 00:02:32.265 I've found braided line from someone's halibut reel holding 52 00:02:32.375 --> 00:02:33.425 five lines together. 53 00:02:33.765 --> 00:02:37.105 Uh, we believe we had someone pull our anchor thinking it 54 00:02:37.105 --> 00:02:38.265 was a crab pot. 55 00:02:38.365 --> 00:02:41.505 We had huge piece of driftwood come in, uh, 56 00:02:41.605 --> 00:02:43.985 in the summertime after we harvested. 57 00:02:44.405 --> 00:02:46.585 We had a guy drive right over the top 58 00:02:46.605 --> 00:02:49.305 of the one framing line that wasn't quite deep enough. 59 00:02:49.405 --> 00:02:52.745 And, you know, so just all of trying 60 00:02:52.745 --> 00:02:55.465 to balance all those things and watch and monitor the kelp, 61 00:03:00.385 --> 00:03:04.005 It took me two years before I was able to secure a permit. 62 00:03:04.305 --> 00:03:07.485 Uh, the initial reaction was just plain negative 63 00:03:07.485 --> 00:03:09.245 because people didn't understand 64 00:03:09.245 --> 00:03:11.045 what we were doing or, or why. 65 00:03:11.785 --> 00:03:15.445 Uh, but I, I believe in this, this type of farming 66 00:03:16.345 --> 00:03:19.205 and I stuck with it, and I'm gonna continue. 67 00:03:19.305 --> 00:03:20.965 Uh, we still are facing 68 00:03:21.565 --> 00:03:23.725 regulatory hurdles, but it's getting better. 69 00:03:29.205 --> 00:03:32.125 I think figuring out a market for the sugar kelp has been 70 00:03:32.265 --> 00:03:33.645 the absolute biggest challenge, 71 00:03:33.705 --> 00:03:36.205 but it's one that's really fun to think about 72 00:03:36.265 --> 00:03:37.325 and try to figure out. 73 00:03:37.505 --> 00:03:41.365 One of the ways that we approach this sort of unique market 74 00:03:42.005 --> 00:03:44.045 situation that we're in, in Connecticut since we lack the 75 00:03:44.045 --> 00:03:45.965 processing infrastructure, was 76 00:03:46.185 --> 00:03:49.965 by creating a New England Sugar Kelp Harvest celebration, 77 00:03:50.175 --> 00:03:53.365 where we encourage local restaurants to put a seaweed, 78 00:03:53.445 --> 00:03:55.365 a locally cultivated seaweed item on the menu. 79 00:03:55.705 --> 00:03:59.405 And it needs to be, uh, starting with a fresh product. 80 00:03:59.585 --> 00:04:01.485 So, you know, we would give them fresh seaweed 81 00:04:01.485 --> 00:04:02.365 and they would go ahead and create 82 00:04:02.605 --> 00:04:03.285 whatever they wanted with it. 83 00:04:03.285 --> 00:04:06.685 And it turned into an amazing, um, sort of competition 84 00:04:06.685 --> 00:04:08.165 among a, a lot of local chefs. 85 00:04:12.745 --> 00:04:16.125 We think that economic injustice has been a major 86 00:04:16.125 --> 00:04:20.165 challenge for us, just over to our left as an area known 87 00:04:20.425 --> 00:04:21.845 as Billionaires Row. 88 00:04:22.585 --> 00:04:24.685 And it's the wealthiest people in America 89 00:04:24.905 --> 00:04:25.925 who have homes there 90 00:04:26.265 --> 00:04:30.605 and all of their waste from these just huge estates 91 00:04:30.635 --> 00:04:33.885 with 27 bathrooms goes into our water. 92 00:04:34.625 --> 00:04:37.845 And COVID-19 presented a huge crisis to us 93 00:04:38.115 --> 00:04:41.685 with a mass exodus of people fleeing from New York City 94 00:04:42.475 --> 00:04:45.805 into, uh, this area known as Shinnecock Hills, which, uh, 95 00:04:46.085 --> 00:04:48.565 surrounds the Shinnecock Bay, the body of water 96 00:04:48.565 --> 00:04:50.325 that we're attempting to clean up 97 00:04:50.705 --> 00:04:53.605 and all of their waste is going directly into the water. 98 00:04:54.065 --> 00:04:58.525 And so for us, a huge purpose of cultivating kelp is 99 00:04:58.545 --> 00:05:01.205 to extract nitrogen and carbon from the water. 100 00:05:01.345 --> 00:05:03.165 And so we are just 101 00:05:03.725 --> 00:05:06.645 fighting this overdevelopment at such a rapid pace. 102 00:05:06.905 --> 00:05:11.245 So being able to get our kelp seeds out into the water 103 00:05:11.385 --> 00:05:13.485 as soon as possible has been a challenge. 104 00:05:18.805 --> 00:05:23.405 I guess the biggest threat, or the biggest concern is ice. 105 00:05:24.145 --> 00:05:25.285 So if you're in a system 106 00:05:25.285 --> 00:05:27.965 that's gonna get a thick ice, this might not work. 107 00:05:29.705 --> 00:05:32.605 If it's a thin ice and you can keep the lines submerged, 108 00:05:32.945 --> 00:05:34.685 at least a, a couple people below the bottom, 109 00:05:34.865 --> 00:05:35.685 it should be fine.
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Featured Speakers:
Paul McCormick
Great Gun Oysters
Mike Doall
Stony Brook University
Alf Pryor
Owner/Operator at Alaska Ocean Farms
Nick Mangini
Kodiak Island Sustainable Seaweed
Suzie Flores
Founding Member, Sugar Kelp Cooperative
Tela Troge
Shinnecock Kelp Farmers